| lgking |
Feb 01, 2006, 12:17 PM
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NOTE: Because this OLD thread has some relevance to one of the discussions I am currently having with J, about the theological concepts we all do, or do not, hold, I bring it forward to now. Please, ignore it if you feel bored. I WILL be doing some revisions.
The old thread carried the title, interesting perhaps only to me: G�˜D is the matrix of ALL that is, physically, mentally and spiritually speaking CURIOUS AND POSITIVE, THEISTS, ATHEISTS, PANTHEISTS, PANENTHEISTS, DEISTS, WHATEVER AND AGNOSTICS ABOUT THE WHOLE IDEA OF METAPHYSICS--the kind I feel who love to dialogue about all creative ideas--TAKE NOTE: In the 1950's, it was recommended to all theological students at the seminary, which I attended, that we read the book, CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE, by The Rev. James S. Whale, then President of Cheshunt College, Cambridge, England. He was a well-respected liberal evangelical Congregational minister and teacher. I still have his book. Chapter one is entitled THE LIVING GOD (1941). It is about, "the reality, nature and purpose of the living God." IS THERE A GOD? Then, interestingly, he asks: "But is there a God?" Amazingly, he answers his question by saying, "Apparently not. God is not apparent to our senses. Nor is he indubitably apparent to human reason." He goes on to point out that the so-called philosophical "proofs" for the existence of God are not proofs, they are arguments. He admits that, "...it is not compellingly apparent that God is the only explanation of human history", otherwise why would we have the problem of evil? Interesting. J.S. WHALE PUTS A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON FAITH AND GRACE ===================================================== "Nevertheless" he continues, "belief in the reality of God is the alpha and omega (THE BEGINNING AND THE END) of the Christian religion. Christian doctrines presuppose and illustrate the fundamental doctrine that God is, and that man's chief end is to know him." THE DOCTRINE OF CREATION Beginning with this--1, the Christian doctrine of Creation-- he writes about other doctrines: There are 2, the Christine doctrine of Sin, 3, of History, 4, of the Atonement (life, death and resurrection of Jesus), 5, of the Trinity and the Incarnation, 6, of the Church, of the Word and the Sacraments, and 7, the doctrine of Last Things--life Eternal. Reading Whale, today, I now realize why--while I still respect the point of view of theism--I need this new perspective which I call unitheism, or panentheism. It sure avoids having to speak of G�˜D as being any kind of separate human-like being. GØD. Note what my 'puter does with this spelling, at times. It changes it to G�˜D, IMO, is whatever infinity and eternity are. It does not change in my title or in my signature--when I write as Lindsay. G�˜D AND THE VERB TO BE ======================== BTW, the verb 'to be' is the only verb which I am comfortable using in conjunction with 'G�˜D'. IMO, G�˜D is not, in any way an objective human-like being who does, or even wills, this, that, or whatever. For me, G�˜D does not will, or exist; G�˜D is will, or existence. This is why Orthodox Jews write about G-d, not about God. G-d, for them--and I agree--cannot be made into a three-dimensional and objective, even subjective, being. ========================================== Currently, ' G�˜D', or GOD, is the acronym I choose to use for what I once use to symbolized as 'God'. Feel free to use any word with which you are comfortable. Some agnostics--ones who are not comfortable with theism or atheist--like to speak of Nature when referring to the ultimate reality--what the theologian Paul Tillich called, "the ground of all being" I think of G�˜D as the highest good. That is, that which points to all present and potential GOODNESS, all ORDER and laws as uncovered by the sciences, and DESIGN and beauty as created by the arts. IMO, each of us has the opportunity to be at one with G�˜D But this will only happen if we consciously choose be at one with what is. The human ability to have FAITH, HOPE, and to be LOVING, indicates that G�˜D is within us. This brings us to the concept of LOVE. LOVE and WILL are closely related. To understand the spirit of love, at it highest level, please read Paul's great poem on love. It is found in I Corinthians 13. It is in this spirit that I begin this dialogue. And, BTW, I want to think of this exercise as a dialogue--the sharing of mutually valuable ideas--not a debate in which one poster tries to prove that the other is wrong. Of course, often there is no absolute agreement about what is, or is not, the truth. Therefore, for now, when I run into people with concepts with which I strongly disagree, I will simply say: I beg to disagree, agreeably, and lovingly. Much of what I say will be prefaced with the phrase, in my opinion. IMO, is a phrase I will probably use often. On with the dialogue. This post has been edited by Lindsay: May 08, 2008, 07:03 PM |
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| Lindsay |
May 04, 2008, 01:11 PM
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This is an experiment. I want to see how this plays out. I think, as a moderator of this section, I do have some freedom to do and undo. Which I will do, if necessary.
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lgking GØD IS ? ... IMO, the verb 'to be' is the only verb I can use when I write about absolute being. Feb 01, 2006, 12:17 PM
lgking Good to see you are there, Rick! Happy 2006... Feb 01, 2006, 12:52 PM
Rick It's good to see you here too.
===============... Feb 01, 2006, 01:28 PM
lgking
It's good to see you here too.
Rick. I presu... Feb 01, 2006, 03:27 PM
Rick
Rick. I presume you are a still your positive and... Feb 01, 2006, 04:06 PM
lgking Rick, I offer the following correction:
LGK: ... Feb 01, 2006, 05:44 PM
Rick
... but what about Pascal's wager? Is it not ... Feb 07, 2006, 12:37 PM
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Trip like I do Iggie,
Yes, an extremely subjective and relative ... Feb 01, 2006, 03:03 PM
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Lindsay The theology of unitheism in four line:
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Enki .
For example, the Hebrew for the personal name o... Jul 06, 2006, 12:41 AM
Lindsay
......I heard that YHVA is used as well. Is not i... Jul 06, 2006, 07:17 AM
Enki
[quote name='Enki' post='66926' date='Jul 06, 12... Jul 06, 2006, 10:47 AM
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Guest
It is not possible to define the ultimate reality... Jun 23, 2006, 06:28 AM
Lindsay
It is not possible to define the ultimate reality... Jun 23, 2006, 07:22 AM
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Guest Things are not as they appear to be
Thought is tha... Jun 23, 2006, 10:05 AM
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Lindsay
Shiva…represents the heart and mind…sensing t... Jun 23, 2006, 01:41 PM
Hey Hey
How can the eye…
See itself?
Poetical metaphor... Jun 26, 2006, 09:33 PM
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psikik joe
There are two guests here, two different styles, ... Jun 23, 2006, 04:10 PM
Guest_Dianah_*
There are two guests here, two different styles,... Jun 23, 2006, 04:46 PM
Lindsay BTW, as the moderator of this section, I will do m... Jun 23, 2006, 05:19 PM
mike-1
BTW, as the moderator of this section, I will do ... Jun 25, 2006, 07:30 AM
OnlyNow
BTW, as the moderator of this section, I will do ... Jun 25, 2006, 07:39 AM
mike-1
BTW, as the moderator of this section, I will do... Jun 25, 2006, 08:44 AM
OnlyNow
[quote name='OnlyNow' post='66565' date='Jun 25, ... Jun 25, 2006, 09:53 AM
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lucid_dream I'm familiar with Legos. Does that count? Jul 01, 2006, 10:28 PM
OnlyNow
I'm familiar with Legos. Does that count?
L... Jul 02, 2006, 10:25 PM
lucid_dream
[quote name='lucid_dream' post='66799' date='Jul ... Jul 02, 2006, 11:01 PM
Guest True religion is the science of inner dimensions, ... Jul 02, 2006, 06:44 AM
Guest The Name of God
El -- God in Hebrew (Eloha; Elohi... Jul 02, 2006, 07:11 AM
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Lindsay
"I´ve found God," says man who cracked... Jul 03, 2006, 04:45 AM
Guest Lindsay,
You can find the interview with Francis C... Jul 03, 2006, 11:25 AM
Lindsay The link was not complete, sorry. However, I like... Jul 03, 2006, 02:33 PM
Guest The secret power of the universe and how to use it... Jul 05, 2006, 10:41 AM
Guest Enki,
You will find answers to Your question in K... Jul 06, 2006, 07:22 AM
Enki
Enki,
You will find answers to Your question in ... Jul 06, 2006, 10:11 AM
maximus242 Intresting stuff, coinicidences or truths? Can one... Jul 06, 2006, 11:12 AM
Enki
Intresting stuff, coinicidences or truths? Can on... Jul 06, 2006, 11:35 AM
Lindsay
...Can one even define what it means to be omnipo... Jul 07, 2006, 10:51 AM
Guest
3) I would like to think that if there is any dis... Jul 07, 2006, 09:21 PM

OnlyNow
The human freedom is confined by the language the... Jul 07, 2006, 10:13 PM


Enki
I've also heard it said that silence is the ... Jul 08, 2006, 04:30 AM

Lindsay
[quote name='Lindsay' post='67022' date='Jul 07, ... Jul 08, 2006, 12:05 PM


Enki
[quote name='Lindsay' post='67022' date='Jul 07,... Jul 09, 2006, 12:09 AM

Lindsay ...But what if the mind decrypts (translates into ... Sep 04, 2006, 08:45 PM
maximus242
...Can one even define what it means to be omnip... Jul 08, 2006, 10:01 AM
maximus242 lol the last part is funny. You do make some good ... Jul 06, 2006, 12:18 PM
Enki
lol the last part is funny. You do make some good... Jul 06, 2006, 12:34 PM
maximus242 I like to look at freewill in the way it is alread... Jul 06, 2006, 01:05 PM
Enki
I like to look at freewill in the way it is alrea... Jul 06, 2006, 01:21 PM
maximus242 Yeah, certainly creativity is biased to environmen... Jul 06, 2006, 01:36 PM
Enki
Yeah, certainly creativity is biased to environme... Jul 06, 2006, 04:59 PM
Enki The message above was posted by me, I forgot to lo... Jul 07, 2006, 09:36 PM
Guest Enki,
True freedom will be granted to human mind b... Jul 08, 2006, 06:05 AM
Enki
Enki,
True freedom will be granted to human mind ... Jul 08, 2006, 10:06 AM
Guest Enki,
True freedom of the mind is not granted by s... Jul 08, 2006, 03:47 PM
Enki
Enki,
True freedom of the mind is not granted by ... Jul 08, 2006, 11:15 PM
Guest Enki,
Now you really reveal your true nature -- it... Jul 09, 2006, 03:00 AM
Enki
Enki,
Now you really reveal your true nature -- i... Jul 09, 2006, 06:51 AM
Lindsay Enki writes:"Unfortunately I cannot share my ... Jul 09, 2006, 05:27 AM
Enki
Enki writes:"Unfortunately I cannot share my... Jul 09, 2006, 06:35 AM
maximus242 *Meow*... Jul 09, 2006, 08:29 AM
Enki
*Meow*...
:) Jul 09, 2006, 10:45 AM
Guest Enki,
Once again you reveal how ill-mannered and i... Jul 09, 2006, 11:05 AM
Enki
Enki,
Once again you reveal how ill-mannered and ... Jul 09, 2006, 11:18 AM
Enki What do you want Robert?
The obvious fact of my e... Jul 09, 2006, 12:11 PM
Lindsay Enki: Just to demonstrate the power I have, check ... Jul 09, 2006, 01:55 PM
Enki
Enki: Just to demonstrate the power I have, check... Jul 09, 2006, 09:03 PM
Enki
But seriously, what does it take for grown adults... Jul 09, 2006, 09:22 PM
Guest
But seriously, what does it take for grown adult... Jul 10, 2006, 12:06 AM
Lindsay
But seriously, what does it take for grown adult... Jul 10, 2006, 12:15 PM
Enki
[quote name='Enki' post='67125' date='Jul 09, 09... Jul 10, 2006, 12:44 PM
Guest Is self-expression, discussion, debate, a form of ... Jul 10, 2006, 04:20 AM
Guest
Is self-expression, discussion, debate, a form of... Jul 10, 2006, 08:32 AM
Enki Oh, I noted that my posts approached to 500 and my... Jul 10, 2006, 12:54 PM![]() ![]() |
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