 Enlightenment An Ultimate Aim? |
| Shawn |
 Jan 23, 2006, 12:51 AM
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[to continue a discussion started with Steve Lance]
When your experience grows, and you become a part of all you experience, and there is no clear boundary where you end and others begin, where is there room for an ego? And where do we go when we've outgrown our old egos? Do we create new ones or does something else happen? Assume for a moment that you've reached the ideal state of enlightenment (some of us may be there already, but nevermind that). You reside in an expanded, godly, egoless state of mind in which you are one with everything you experience. What now? Is this it? Is this really the goal of life you desire? Perhaps all living things have a will to transcend themselves (which appears exceptionally in man, at times). In such a case, there is no ideal state of enlightenment. In such a case, quality of life is measured in terms of striving and strength to transcend oneself, and the notion of remaining content with a state of enlightened Being is seen as a weakness precisely because the act of Becoming (and striving and transcending oneself) is noticably absent. Or perhaps it's no coincidence that age is commonly believed to be correlated with 'wisdom', and that the older we get, the more 'mellow' we tend to become. That is, we become more mellow as we age because we become wiser? There seems to be a flaw with that logic. The point being that we should all strive for enlightening experiences, but not remain content with the enlightenment thereby attained, because in the end, it's all relative. |
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| Rick |
Jan 24, 2006, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(Shawn @ Jan 23, 12:51 AM)  You reside in an expanded, godly, egoless state of mind in which you are one with everything you experience. What now? Is this it? Is this really the goal of life you desire? You go down the mountain and seek justice for the people. |
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Feb 08, 2006, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(Rick @ Jan 24, 11:00 AM) QUOTE(Shawn @ Jan 23, 12:51 AM) You reside in an expanded, godly, egoless state of mind in which you are one with everything you experience. What now? Is this it? Is this really the goal of life you desire? You go down the mountain and seek justice for the people. Why? |
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Shawn Enlightenment An Ultimate Aim? Jan 23, 2006, 12:51 AM
Trip like I do When your experience grows, and you become a part ... Jan 23, 2006, 08:46 PM
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It is far better to use 'can... Mar 18, 2006, 03:59 PM Guest Enlightenment is interesting.
It's not uncomm... Mar 18, 2006, 11:20 PM Neural you will know them by their works Mar 19, 2006, 12:12 AM Guest Yeah Neural but what's interesting is that tho... Mar 19, 2006, 09:51 AM Laz
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how and why do non-enlightened people surpass the... Mar 19, 2006, 12:12 PM Laz
I was still referring to character flaws. The phe... Mar 19, 2006, 01:10 PM Guest If you presented the question to me; like I said, ... Mar 19, 2006, 12:14 PM Neural
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look deeper into it ;0)
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But, an opinion ma... May 23, 2006, 02:20 PM Guest "Opinion is a flitting thing but Truth outlas... May 23, 2006, 04:52 PM Hynox.
"The fact that an opinion has been widely he... May 24, 2006, 08:12 PM lucid_dream Does this mean that enlightenment could be utterly... May 24, 2006, 10:33 PM Hynox. "It is the state of sheer Joy, Bliss, Love, P... May 25, 2006, 02:06 AM Rick Some rather nice quotes.
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