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post Aug 23, 2005, 06:14 PM
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"There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know."

....from a February 12, 2002 news briefing.
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post Oct 21, 2005, 11:51 AM
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I think we can get an infinite regression out of this:

What about the unknown unknown unknowns? Those are the ones we don't know we don't know we don't know.
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post Oct 21, 2005, 02:41 PM
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nah...!
The very first 'unknown' covers all the subsequent ones, but it is possible to dream that you are dreaming.
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post Oct 22, 2005, 08:49 AM
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"There is bull sh*t, that is, there is sh*t that we know is a bulls. Then there is just plain sh*t, we really don't know where that sh*t comes from, but if I put your face in it, then we'd know something about that sh*t."

-Donald Rumsfeld

...from a memo discussing foreign policy.

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post Oct 22, 2005, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE (rhymer @ Oct 21, 11:41 PM)
nah...!
The very first 'unknown' covers all the subsequent ones, but it is possible to dream that you are dreaming.

and dreaming about being awake is possibly the real awake ......
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post Oct 26, 2005, 03:54 PM
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I've dreamed I'm awake. But I was only dreaming. Then I really woke up.
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post Oct 27, 2005, 03:14 PM
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I dreamed I was dreaming that I couldn't wake up. It's OK, I was just dead. Phew!
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