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post Oct 14, 2004, 06:57 PM
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I am writing this post because I am seeking help in relation to an experience I had two nights ago.

When I typed the symptoms of this experience into my search engine, instead of resulting in something medical as I presumed it would, it came up with this sites page on expanding consciousness. As I read the section on “What is it like to Experience Expanded Consciousness”, I was surprised to read an exact description of the experience I had. I would like to point out at this point that I had not taken any elicit substances to induce this experience. (What you refer to as ‘entheogens’.) It simply happened randomly and without warning at around 3am while I was sleeping…

What I experienced was mainly, what Shawn has described as, “body expansion”. I simply awoke to the sensation that my physical presence was gigantic in relation to its normal size. Trying to describe my experience to my poor partner who was with me at the time, I would estimate that I expanded to around ten thousand times my normal size. This was by no means fun… I was in fact extremely terrified during the whole experience.
Along with body expansion I also experienced Time Dilation, as I can not recall how long I was in this state for, or more to the point, time did not seem relevant or even to exist. (If that makes sense.)

I have, however, experienced this before...
When I was a young child I experienced a similar feeling on a semi-regular basis that also occurred either just before or during the state of sleep. During these experiences I would physically expand to about ten times my normal size and would also feel intense fear during the event. After a while I learned to not freak out but to relax into it. This caused me to be able to be comfortable during this state, which after a while, faded into normality. (The last time I remember this happening was about two years ago. The first was when I was about 8. I am now 25.)

I also tried to relax into it this time, but it didn’t work. I had simply never expanded to that massive size before. Its not that I’m scared of the size I expand too. It’s simply that the intense fear is there. (?)

I just want to know what the hell is going on??? If it is expanding consciousness I’m experiencing, then why? And what does that mean anyway?

You people seem to be the experts, so I’m posting this note in the hope that I’ll be able to get some sensible advice.

What’s happening to me?
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post Oct 14, 2004, 07:19 PM
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Earthchild, can we safely assume that you are serious about this; that you are not pulling our collective legs? If you are serious, helping you to work through this could be an interesting experience for all of us--experts or no--who have had similar experiences and...

Well! first things first: Where do we go from here?

BTW, may I post what we write here at my URL, also? http://www.flfcanada.com
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post Oct 14, 2004, 07:47 PM
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I used to experience 'night terrors' as a kid quite often, and one of the major features of the experience was the 'expansion' effect that you described. More recently, I have experienced such sensations without entering into a full-fledged 'night terror' experience. I have also experienced this sensation in the full waking state, producing panic-like symptoms and flashbacks of the 'night terror' state. Most recently, I have not had this experience for at least a year although this period could be longer due to me not really paying attention to how long it has been.

I would suggest that you investigate 'night terrors', although I have never really found satisfying explanations for them. The main effects as I recall them are a sort of 'dreamless dream' state that occurs during the first sleep cycle (the first hour or two) and is mostly marked by vague terrifying sensations and minor, almost abstract or nonexistent, associated visual imagery. The 'expansion' effect is a signficiant aspect of the unsettling sensations, with other sensations like falling backwards and being held by a tenuous thread. I probably forget a lot of the other sensations and imagery, but their general character was a sense that they were vague and hard to define, but quite tangibly terrifying.
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post Oct 14, 2004, 07:56 PM
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To Igking
Indeed I am NOT pulling your collective legs...
I am serious, and feel free to post it where ever you like.

To Dan.
You might have something there...
I seem to remember my mother mentioning that phrase.
I'll look into it.
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post Oct 14, 2004, 08:52 PM
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Ok…
Just read allot of sites on night terrors… Now I’m a little freaked out. My once normal world seems to be getting weirder by the hour. For those not familiar with NT’s, here’s a brief but concise definition:

Night Terrors Symptoms: Sudden awakening from sleep, persistent fear or terror that occurs at night, screaming, sweating, confusion, rapid heart rate, inability to explain what happened, usually no recall of "bad dreams" or nightmares, may have a vague sense of frightening images. Many people see spiders, snakes, animals or people in the room, are unable to fully awake, difficult to comfort, with no memory of the event on awakening the next day.

Night Terror or Nightmare?:Nightmares occur during the dream phase of sleep known as REM sleep. Most people enter the REM stage of sleep sometime after 90 minutes of sleep. The circumstances of the nightmare will frighten the sleeper, who usually will wake up with a vivid memory of a long movie-like dream. Night terrors, on the other hand, occur during a phase of deep non-REM sleep usually within an hour after the subject goes to bed. This is also known as stage 4. (A link to a sleep stages chart can be found on the navigation bar to the left) During a night terror, which may last anywhere from five to twenty minutes, the person is still asleep, although the sleepers eyes may be open. When the subject does wake up, they usually have no recollection of the episode other than a sense of fear. This, however, is not always the case. Quite a few people interviewed can remember portions of the night terror, and some remember the whole thing.

From what I have researched and the accounts I have read, I would not simply be able to pass this of as night terrors.

Firstly I can’t find any references to a ‘sense of massive physical expansion’.
Secondly, I am fully conscious during the entire event.
Thirdly, it occurs just as commonly before I go to sleep as after…

The only symptom that seems to be consistent is the sense of fear or “terror”, (don’t we all love that word now…) but the patterns of REM are inconsistent with NT’s, Confusional arousal, or other neural storm sleep related phenomena.

And besides, last time, after I got over the fear, I never felt afraid for years, until the most recent event. (You would to if you woke to find yourself 10,000ish times your normal size!)
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post Oct 14, 2004, 09:08 PM
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My own experience of night terrors was often associated with the 'expansion' sensation, although I have experienced the 'expansion' by itself (even during a complete waking state in the middle of the day) and night terrors without 'expansion'. I'm not sure the connection, but they seem to me to be related. Usually adults do not experience night terrors, although (at least in my experience) certain aspects of that group of sensations can recur. I would be interested to know what a sleep specialist might have to say about your situation.
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post Oct 14, 2004, 09:27 PM
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THEORY: Perhaps a sense of “terror” or fear is a result of disturbances caused during a ‘neural storm’, in relation to uncommon brain activity? Like a kind of brain equivalent of our primitive ‘fight or flight’ instincts in relation to external physical stimuli… (?)

Ie: The relation between the two seems to be that they share a common symptom (eg. Sense of fear.) as a result of unusual brain activity.
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post Oct 14, 2004, 09:32 PM
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yes, that sounds like a good theory. The experience is so 'out there' that we naturally react at a very basic level (amygdala?) as if it were a dire threat.
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post Oct 14, 2004, 11:58 PM
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To: Earthchild,

Do not worry, all is Ok. When that happens just relax, do not move, get still, do not fear and just imagine that by your Gigantic Titan hand you take a small nice flower. That feeling will pass.
All is normal and you are normal. Do not worry my friend. Trust me.
I think you will have nice and prominent future and you will become clever personality and will make many good to many people. You born in ordered and stable country and you will have good future.
And do not fear. There is nothing to fear about.
I wish you happiness, good health, abundance to you and your family members.

With best wishes,
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post Oct 15, 2004, 12:22 AM
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I am sure you should like looking at stars and you also have to love astronomy.
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post Oct 15, 2004, 06:28 AM
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Earthchild: Thanks for your obviously sincere response. As my wife and I--a retired teacher and preacher (open-minded types) are on our way, shortly, to see a live show at Stratford Ontario--a beautiful small city two hours drive northwest of Toronto--I will get back to writing more, later. BTW, Stratford is famous as a live-theatre town, with it own Shakespeare festival.
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post Oct 15, 2004, 06:54 AM
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Um… yes… well…
Becoming comfortable with the sensation is what I intend, but getting to the bottom of it would be somehow more satisfying. If it’s anything like the smaller version, its going to keep reoccurring for quite some years, and if it continues to follow the same pattern, I can expect it to increase one thousand times in about 17ish year’s time… (Hope not…)

When it occurs, I find the best thing to do is something that engages my physical body. (Get up, move around, do anything, shower, etc.) Without sounding crazy… This somehow reminds by body how big it really is and the sensation passes.

As completely insane as your suggestion sounds, I’ll try it anyway. I mean, why not, I’m sounding completely insane now too.

Thanks!
But personally, I prefer khipu.
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post Oct 15, 2004, 03:24 PM
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Hello earthchild,

Your post is interesting, and my first thought is that perhaps you are in a semi-conscious state where some of your brain functions are working and some are still asleep.
It is these anomalous situations that can cast some light on human perception and its abnormalities.

When you say 'I am ten thousand times larger' is it a 'feeling' ie., internal, or is the room you are in visually very small, ie., you get the feeling because visual stimuli force you to conclude your size increase?

When you say there is time dilation I suspect that indicates that your body clock[s] are affected, just as your fear response is evoked.
Next time it happens, try to realise that it is a repeating situation which will abate and 'go with it a bit'. As you become less frightened by the situation, consider more aspects of what it seems like, and try to learn from the experience.

I have never had your experience, but have been convinced that I can fly - even to witnessing views above my house which I have never seen, and views above and across beautiful valleys which I fly around, swooping low and circling around with breath-taking views [all artificial] which are a wonder to perceive.
I just wish I could enter whatever state produces these sensations at will [they always occur during sleep] but have abated for 5 years or more now. Of course, you can well imagine that I have no fear associated with these dream states, unlike yourself [they are so realistic as to be part of my experiences]!
Fear not, just stand back in amazement and remember to report your further analysis of contemplation of causes and experiences witnessed.
And. I must add that you are not going mad [as I thought about myself] but experiencing some of the wonders of what the human brain creates at a time when we are supposed to unconscious.

I am no expert on expanded consciousness, but suspect that the expansion referred to is of abilities of the brain beyond normal for the population rather than distortions or things we are not meant normally to witness- but I could be wrong!
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post Oct 15, 2004, 05:47 PM
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The sensation is hard to describe.
It is visual, (ie; the room ‘looks’ smaller) but it is also something that is physically felt. (ie; conveyed through the sense of touch) If I held, for example, a coffee mug, it would ‘feel’ like I was holding a grain of sand. There is also an auditory level where sounds seem smaller, as well as the inexplicable overwhelming sense that I simply am…
If I was to say, which of the senses was the most prominent, I would definitely say the sense of touch.

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post Oct 15, 2004, 06:40 PM
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I tend to agree with Rhymer on this as he says

my first thought is that perhaps you are in a semi-conscious state where some of your brain functions are working and some are still asleep.

In working with people who are perceiving things in dreams or astral states {And the astral is a real experience for everyone; but those who are not familiar with it will mistake it for something not of a dream.} I often find they cannot differentiate what is real or physical. One example is the sounds and screams they insist occur and yet others present do not hear them.
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post Oct 15, 2004, 08:16 PM
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About the SOMA (body) , PSYCHE (mind) and PNEUMA (spirit) factors

Earthchild, since the 1960's, I have called what I do, pneumatherapy. That is, that which recognizes the value and use of the spiritual component of human nature.

I believe that pneumatherapy works complementary to and in cooperation with the body and the mind for the promotion of total health of the whole person. In other words, pneumatherpay is a holistic and complementry approach to achieving total health. It is not just another reductionistic, or a bits and pieces one.

By the way, the following information is also recorded in the book, EXTRAODINARY EXPERIENCES--Personal accounts of the paranormal in Canada by, John Robert Colombo ( Hounslow Press, Willowdale, Ontario,1989)

I first began using what I now call, pneumatherapy, in 1963/1964. At that time, my intuition was confirmed. Something was seriously wrong with my only daughter, Catherine--She is now, 2004, a healthy adult and in her late forties.

It was confirmed when she was diagnosed, by medical experts at the Toronto Sick Children's Hospital, as being, literally, sick unto death. Later, the same doctors, at Sick Kids, warned us not to expect too much. One doctor warned my wife and I: " Your daughter may not live to maturity. All we can do is keep giving her the medicine [they were allergy shots] and hope for the best."

It was at this point that I decided to take a chance and use pneumatherapy--my teacher, the Rev. Canon Joseph Wittkofski, had called it 'hypnosis'. It worked. [More later].
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post Oct 15, 2004, 08:51 PM
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Bertalanffy's main premise is:
"The only goal of science appeared to be analytical, i.e., the splitting up of reality into ever smaller units and the isolation of individual causal trains...We may state as characteristic of modern science that this scheme of isolable units acting in one-way causality has proven to be insufficient. Hence the appearance, in all fields of science, of notions like wholeness, holistic, organismic, gestalt, etc., which all signify that, in the last resort, we must think in terms of systems of elements in mutual interaction."

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post Oct 18, 2004, 09:40 AM
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My apologies for not writing back sooner…
I’ve been RESEARCHING!!!
I can’t stop!
I can’t believe the speed with which I’m working, or the amount of information I’m retaining!
Mostly science…
More details later…

But does anyone know whether anyone has been able to change the polarity of frequencies on an atomic level???
(Important for theory I'm working on...)
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post Oct 18, 2004, 09:53 AM
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High-Spin atomics and the potential for levitating objects including the Pyramid stones are dealt with in my work. I prefer the Harmonic explanations rather than the Christian Mystery School's stuff of Gardner. One of my correspondents is Philip Gardiner of gardinerosborn.com. He is in contact with the scientist that Gardner stole a lot from or did not properly give credit to him (as I suspected in my writings). Philip has invited me to be on a TV documentary being negotiated in England.

The changing polarity (I assume) according to Gardner causes fluctuating weightlessness and this is why I am of the opinion there is no way it moved Pyramid rock of great size into such fine tolerances or fit. However, it nmay have been part of the technology.
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post Oct 18, 2004, 11:14 AM
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Could the pyramid stone levitation technique be used to win a gold medal in Olympic weight lifting?
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post Oct 18, 2004, 11:28 AM
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Through harmonics and chants the lessening of weight would make that possible. Some say Nureyev defied gravity and it is possible his mind was so foussed that did happen but usually it is a function of super-annuation or hormonal inputs.
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post Oct 18, 2004, 11:35 AM
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the correct answer is:
of course! but the olympian would have to resist POWER mongering URges and let the TRUTH of levitation flow through his CHAKRAS and initiate his spiritual muscles against the HOBBSIAN paradigm of DENIAL and FEAR
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post Oct 18, 2004, 11:36 AM
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Of course Dan is engaging his highly refined sense of humor that he gains through association with the kids he teaches. But yes, attunement is helpful.
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post Oct 18, 2004, 11:38 AM
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I'm just trying to meet you halfway, RTB
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post Oct 18, 2004, 11:42 AM
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No you are doing your usual and never reading the factual presentations because that is too much work for you - or because you already think you have the answers you need to get ahead. A head has a terrible thing to waste though.
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post Oct 18, 2004, 12:06 PM
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post Oct 18, 2004, 10:48 PM
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WTF?!
To be perfectly frank you all sound like a bunch of intellectual wankers trying to prove how big their dicks are. Why don’t you all just get together in ‘reality’, get naked, measure up, and get over yourselves!
I mean f**k! I came to you people freaking out over an experience I had because I thought I would receive some real help and answers, but what I got instead was either the esoteric ramblings of uber-spiritual trippers, or the self indulgent pseudoscientific suggestions of wasted intellects, who are doing more to express their obvious insecurities rather than their ‘phallicified’ knowledge base.

Since my first post I seam to have evolved from a ‘narcissistic fashion freak’ into someone who’s read most of what there is to know about physics within a matter of days and is now pissing about on the outer limits of cutting edge atomic theory, pushing it further, and designing non-fuel based energy-harmonizing technology’s that can be applied to everything, from visiting the next suburb, to interplanetary space travel. (it used to take me at least a week to read a novel, let alone a text, for god’s sake!)

Personally I preferred it the way I was, where things like this were merely speculative and didn’t really matter, in comparison to what I was going to wear when I went out on the weekend. Its not just that the usual ‘me’ now seams a little shallow, or that I crave the simplicity within the existence of that reality, but that I have the overwhelming sense that If I don’t use my brain like this, I’m going to go insane…

Some of you have merit, but I have come to the conclusion that I am never going to receive what I came here for, and it seams I will do better to postulate on the cause and ramifications of this phenomenon myself. Yet I feel I owe you all one concluding statement:

I have had the physical expansion sensation again. It occurred this time when I had just laid down to go to sleep. (in other words, I was fully awake) This time I wasn’t afraid and distracted myself by calculating self-compounding subharmonic frequency collisions which, as some may know, are infinitesimal. (Counting sheep?) Seemingly, due to my relaxed state, the expansion sensation transformed itself into a feeling of floating, (which was very nice) with randomly oscillating vertices of gravity. I then discovered that through the thought memory of either experience, I could oscillate between the two sensations at will. Then I got up and decided to learn binary code. (I haven’t been getting much sleep lately…) I still can not explain this phenomenon I’m experiencing, but I assume that, like the lesser version I first experienced when I was a child it will soon also fade into normality. Perhaps the most interesting account of similar experiences I have come across in my research is that of death. Several people who have physically died and been brought back to life have reported a similar, if not exactly the same, experience. (Although the most interesting, I am in no way declaring that this, as opposed to any other account, holds any greater significance.) I still hold to my original theory as the most plausible. (The brain equivalent of the fight/flight instinct, in relation to whatever is happening in my head.)

That is all. I see no benefit in writing anything more on this site…

Energy and Love,
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post Oct 18, 2004, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE (Earthchild @ Oct 18, 11:48 PM)
I see no benefit in writing anything more on this site…

probably a good choice
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Earthchild didn't rule out reading this site. With frightening, unusual, and undesired brain states, start with the fundamentals. Make sure you are getting a balanced diet and enough exercise to make you hungry for good food. Try a vitamin supplement. Good luck in the future.
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Dear Earthchild

I have never seen such a ringing endorsement of 'thinking' and learning. Too bad you can't get over yourself yet. I refer to these words of yours.

Since my first post I seam to have evolved from a ‘narcissistic fashion freak’ into someone who’s read most of what there is to know about physics within a matter of days and is now pissing about on the outer limits of cutting edge atomic theory, pushing it further, and designing non-fuel based energy-harmonizing technology’s that can be applied to everything, from visiting the next suburb, to interplanetary space travel. (it used to take me at least a week to read a novel, let alone a text, for god’s sake!)

Personally I preferred it the way I was, where things like this were merely speculative and didn’t really matter, in comparison to what I was going to wear when I went out on the weekend. Its not just that the usual ‘me’ now seams a little shallow, or that I crave the simplicity within the existence of that reality, but that I have the overwhelming sense that If I don’t use my brain like this, I’m going to go insane…

Some of you have merit, but I have come to the conclusion that I am never going to receive what I came here for, and it seams I will do better to postulate on the cause and ramifications of this phenomenon myself. Yet I feel I owe you all one concluding statement: {Which was evidence for something egotistical and part of your issues and fears.}
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