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detlev24
post Mar 25, 2009, 07:36 AM
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hello,

i know there are many threads out there discussing similar problems but i would like to mention my specific one, too - since many of them are outdated and research might have brought out better alternatives during the last years.

i am a 23-year-old male student (bodyweight ca. 90 kg) and my problem is that i cannot motivate myself regarding studies (i do not have any other problems - i know what causes this demotivation but nothing i tried helped fighting it during the last nearly 3 years...).
the only thing that will cure me is getting my degree and thus being able to keep on studying elsewhere; but that is rather difficult by not studying (much), although i do like the subject (i am studying cell- and molecular biology).
i am doing sports every day (but saturday) for about 1 - 2 h (very intensive training) and that is the only thing keeping my motivation from falling beneath "0". furthermore i do drink a lot of coffee (i do not take any other drug - i.e. not even alcohol/no smoking), but also 4 - 6 l water a day.

now i would like to try out drugs that might influence my motivation issue favourably; for intense studying purpose (i could get my degree in about 6 / 7 months). which one(s) could do it for me (-> dosage?)? and where could i order them, letting them ship to italy and/or germany?

thank you very much!

ps: since i am studying biology i am interested in further information on the drug's working mechanisms (more specific as they can be found e.g. on wikipedia). so i would be grateful if you could also help me out with some links.
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post Mar 25, 2009, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(detlev24 @ Mar 25, 2009, 03:36 PM) *

hello,

i know there are many threads out there discussing similar problems but i would like to mention my specific one, too - since many of them are outdated and research might have brought out better alternatives during the last years.

i am a 23-year-old male student (bodyweight ca. 90 kg) and my problem is that i cannot motivate myself regarding studies (i do not have any other problems - i know what causes this demotivation but nothing i tried helped fighting it during the last nearly 3 years...).
the only thing that will cure me is getting my degree and thus being able to keep on studying elsewhere; but that is rather difficult by not studying (much), although i do like the subject (i am studying cell- and molecular biology).
i am doing sports every day (but saturday) for about 1 - 2 h (very intensive training) and that is the only thing keeping my motivation from falling beneath "0". furthermore i do drink a lot of coffee (i do not take any other drug - i.e. not even alcohol/no smoking), but also 4 - 6 l water a day.

now i would like to try out drugs that might influence my motivation issue favourably; for intense studying purpose (i could get my degree in about 6 / 7 months). which one(s) could do it for me (-> dosage?)? and where could i order them, letting them ship to italy and/or germany?

thank you very much!

ps: since i am studying biology i am interested in further information on the drug's working mechanisms (more specific as they can be found e.g. on wikipedia). so i would be grateful if you could also help me out with some links.
There are many traits that become apparent during the 'artificial' learning environments that humans have created. One of those that is rather important to 'achieve' within some of these environments is 'self-motivation'. Another is tenacity/perseverance. In its basic form, the selection procedure (unnatural selection, lol) thins out the flock and the poorly motivated tend towards low results/grades, failing, drop-out, sending down etc. sad.gif

Motivation for academic progress should not need drugs (not meaning vitamins, other natural supplements, or even otc cognitive enhancers), in the same way that professional athletics should not need illegal performance enhancing drugs. mad.gif If you prefer to go down that route, then stop reading this reply now and wait for other replies. I would recommend that you try to motivate yourself by thinking about what potential benefits your academic work can bring, both immediate and future. This includes gaining insights into the amazing world of biology, an understanding of how nature including your own body works, your job prospects (includes higher salaries and other related benefits, as well as the nature of the job that will probably be more intellectually stimulating), and the wider and more diverse circle of friends you are/will make. This is just a start on the long list of benefits to look forward to. rolleyes.gif

Another way of becoming motivated that relates more closely to your own area(s) of study, is to look at the applied aspects of the subject. See how it relates to the 'real world', and how it is relevant to your life and the world. In your area that might be the medical applications such as gene therapy, or the biotechnology applications such as genetic engineering of food crops. There are so many applications of cell and molecular biology that you could have motivational fun just searching them out! biggrin.gif

Just thinking about cells motivates me to go look and go learn more. Forget that old SEM photo of the static cell, sitting there grey and 'lifeless'! Think about that so incredibly small entity, yet packed tight with molecules that are furiously interacting and fighting to do their biochemical job. The later might be the job of an enzyme (of which there are hundreds in those tiny cells) turning over a product at the rate of 1000 reactions per second! wacko.gif Think about an ATP molecule being walked rapidly down a microfibril towards its target reaction site. Go find animations and other movies of these 'full of life' activities. Then try and understand how these incredible complex reactions can work, how and why they evolved, how they go wrong in disease, how they can be corrected in treatments, how they might evolve further. smile.gif wink.gif
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post Apr 01, 2009, 06:44 AM
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thank you very much for your reply - of course you are right! - and sorry for my late one. but i am afraid i have reached a level where your thoughts are not making any difference to me... sad.gif

besides, i do think that "professional athletes and doping" is another, different chapter and not what i am trying to do. wink.gif


on another thread someone asked me:
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I share your plight. I am also having a terrible time motivating myself to study this semester. In fact, I just took an exam today for which I did not study any. I know I failed it and worse yet, I do not care. This is not good news. When we speak about motivation, we are really talking about dopaminergic action. So it makes sense you start there. If you want to increase motivation, you will want to increase dopamine production or decrease dopamine re-uptake. Also, are you a very social person? Are you introverted or extroverted? How's your blood pressure? What methods/supplements have you tried already?


and (should anybody be interested in it) i answered:
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i know exactly what you mean by "not caring about" - i took some exams without studying and not even now i am caring about the fact that i did not pass them... indeed, that is making me kind of angry because i never have been this person.

yes, i am very social and usually extroverted. i do not know my blood pressure but it should be excellent for a person at my age.

i have not tried any supplements yet, but i tried to motivate myself by spending more time on things i like, e.g. (besides doing sports) listening to music, reading interesting books and establishing deeper contact to my fellow students. the last one might sound strange but i am not studying in my home country; and (as a foreign student) it is very difficult to make friends here - of course i do know many people - since (nearly) everybody is leaving the city where i am studying and going home from thu/fri - sun/mon (what i cannot do). in poor words - i know i am repeating it - besides doing sports i do not have any fun during studies... this made me (after christmas) stay at home for about two months (which i really enjoyed!) and thus i was loosing an entire session of exams. it is clear that i cannot continue doing that and i do have to leave this place; what i only can do by getting my degree.
i also have tried to make me study by schedule - but without any success. not even knowing that i could get my degree in some months and thus continue a "better life" can make me study and as i already said, i do like the subject (of course not everything) i am studying...
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