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There are possibly as many opinions about mind, as there are users – yet, most of them agree that mind plays a central role in their life.
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Mind is the playground of imagination.

I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

Actually, according to Ch hao, it's the human intelligent system, which take the brain center zone as main center. However, from some aspect of understanding, yes.
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QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 08, 2018, 02:55 AM) *

QUOTE(waechter418 @ Jan 08, 2018, 08:50 AM) *

Mind is the playground of imagination.

I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

Actually, according to Ch hao, it's the human intelligent system, which take the brain center zone as main center. However, from some aspect of understanding, yes.


What is Hao other than a chinese word for good?
https://dictionary.hantrainerpro.com/chines...on-hao_date.htm

What aspect of understanding do you speak? Yours, someone elses, the Universal understanding like the one that preceded man?
One where the brain is the reason and cause of thought? Or one where Mind is the reality behind the cause of the Universe, and where the brain is simply a mechanism for Mind to communicate itself?


Eastern Spiritual science is practiced around the world, and Western science is practiced around the world.


There is a definite gap between western science and Eastern Spiritual sciences.

Not being one to cling to socialist pressures of knowledge and understanding, and being that you are not a professor, or not being one to associate ones self to a particular body of knowledge, what help could you offer other than one that is claimed by you to be independent from any understanding that has any roots to any truth that is not simply your own imagination?
What do you base your truth on? Personal experience, or a collection of thoughts that simply appeal to your imagination, which you call an experience of collective thoughts which stimulate the center of your brain?
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I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

1. For the question "What is Hao other than a chinese word for good?", from the aspect of the chinese language learning, there're other Chinese characters. Additionally, the Germany-registered website in your post for learning is good, but there're definitely other good ones, such as 网络孔子学院 (wwwdotchineseciodotcom).

2. For the second question mentioned in your post above, " from some aspect of understanding", it refers to the aspect of the mind feeling. It's not the "the Universal understanding" in the meaning of the generally-recognized or common understanding; as to "like the one that preceded man?", of course the understanding of this is not the layered human mind activities (according to CH hao) discussed here. I thought there might be basic or fundmental understanding of some mind acitivities for brain functioning and brain center zone bridging the two hemispherical parts of the brain is the cause of the "mind speaking" or mind activities, according to CH hao via his theory of brain structure formation and his opinion on the mind activities with brain scope magnetic effects included. As I have stated in my previous posts as an independent poster in academic communications, I use my logic based on evidence. May it could help you for understanding. Though at present China is learning from other developed countries, but it doesn't mean the chinese could not make great science contribution in their past history.

3. "Experience is one way to show your interest and span for the research, which has no direct links with the innovation and best practices. In my opinion, the continuing ability-based performance with interest is the key and the related recognition is important. I thought the essence of the education was the life-long learning and improvements, in which the so-called formal and regular education should be changed into the intensive and flexible learning aiming for the ability-based performances. To be a real intelligence neuroscientist or cognitive neuroscientist, you might need specialized ability-based performance and fund-included web-platform instead of a doctoral degree or post-doctoral medical background, or some professional training certificates or qualifications. "Learning and improving oneself is a life-long course. To be earnest, degrees and diplomas or occupational certificates or qualifications, even the web courses are totally not necessary to the research, even in the future. Internet, specialized e-contents and the interest for the research, including the practicing and webforum, is necessary." from one poster in this forum.
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QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *

I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

1. For the question "What is Hao other than a chinese word for good?", from the aspect of the chinese language learning, there're other Chinese characters. Additionally, the Germany-registered website in your post for learning is good, but there're definitely other good ones, such as 网络孔子学院 (wwwdotchineseciodotcom).
To facilitate clarity of communication one would have to begin to understand the question before it could be answered. The HAO you mentioned and to the point which I addressed in my question, "what is hao" Or specifically since you didn't get what I was asking, WHO is CH hao, mentioned in your itemized statements (labeled in item "2)? What or who is this CH hao and why do you reference this person place or thing as a point of interest? What is the importance of this person place or thing?
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *

2. For the second question mentioned in your post above, " from some aspect of understanding", it refers to the aspect of the mind feeling. It's not the "the Universal understanding" in the meaning of the generally-recognized or common understanding; as to "like the one that preceded man?", of course the understanding of this is not the layered human mind activities (according to CH hao) discussed here.
Then why did you interject some other kind of definition to mind?
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *
I thought there might be basic or fundmental understanding of some mind acitivities for brain functioning and brain center zone bridging the two hemispherical parts of the brain is the cause of the "mind speaking" or mind activities, according to CH hao via his theory of brain structure formation and his opinion on the mind activities with brain scope magnetic effects included. As I have stated in my previous posts as an independent poster in academic communications, I use my logic based on evidence. May it could help you for understanding. Though at present China is learning from other developed countries, but it doesn't mean the chinese could not make great science contribution in their past history.
If "Mind" discussed here is not the same term or subject as you are contributing how does your interjection of something out of context help in this conversation? Are you hoping to help by hijacking the conversation into something that brings the definition of mind back to the relative ideals of western science where everything external is the cause of consciousness and brain activity? Is your attempt to establish an alternate point of reference to mind, and the added note regarding CH hao and China some kind of advertisement for Chinese education via the internet as a socially established rule of thought?
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *

3. "Experience is one way to show your interest and span for the research, which has no direct links with the innovation and best practices.
In other words, no link to the subject at hand. Experience in something you believe is important seems to be your forte'.
In other words you seem to like giving an opinion where said opinion comes nowhere close to being a part of the subject within the conversation but rather as an intent to take over and route the conversation towards your own beliefs and ideals?
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *
In my opinion
exactly...
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *
, the continuing ability-based performance with interest is the key and the related recognition is important. I thought the essence of the education was the life-long learning and improvements, in which the so-called formal and regular education should be changed into the intensive and flexible learning aiming for the ability-based performances. To be a real intelligence neuroscientist or cognitive neuroscientist, you might need specialized ability-based performance and fund-included web-platform instead of a doctoral degree or post-doctoral medical background, or some professional training certificates or qualifications.
So what you suggest is that without checks and balances in the proof of successful application in the form of degrees or doctorates or diplomas stating that someone has observed and challenged the person in their knowledge and application of subject mastery, anyone could become "An expert" and should be able to without the paperwork and standard references in valid testimony.
Imagine going into a hospital and someone who claims to be self taught without having studied or practiced amidst some kind of standardized or observed point of reference in validation or noted level of understanding, meeting you and stating his belief that he can diagnose and operate on you successfully.
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *
"Learning and improving oneself is a life-long course.
Since the universe and all that is in it is too big to contain it is wise to consider that there is always more to learn and experience. However there is no reason to abandon the points of reference to subject matter accumulated thru research and lifetimes of effort and achievements. The future will bring new understanding and technologies that will shift the teachings and affect learning disciplines for relative courses of study, but this is still not the point of the subject at hand, nor does it really address the idea of mind being the playground of imagination as originally stated.
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *
To be earnest, degrees and diplomas or occupational certificates or qualifications, even the web courses are totally not necessary to the research, even in the future.
You are going to have trouble convincing anyone that you know enough to be an expert or even one worth listening to if all you have to validate yourself with, is a list of internet reading and self study declarations. Declarations like: I learned everything I know on the internet....

Kinda like a person saying: "I read every book in the library on medicine, anatomy, herbal teas, and acupuncture, so now I know all there is to know about being a doctor.." But in your case and based on YOUR beliefs it would be more like: "I read every book in the library on medicine, anatomy, herbal teas, and acupuncture, but until I read every book in every library for the rest of my life since mastery can't be captured or practiced in a single lifetime I'll just settle on making claims like.. "I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions."


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Internet, specialized e-contents and the interest for the research, including the practicing and webforum, is necessary." from one poster in this forum.
In a cartoon world perhaps, where all you seek is the attention of others!
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QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *

I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

1. For the question "What is Hao other than a chinese word for good?", from the aspect of the chinese language learning, there're other Chinese characters. Additionally, the Germany-registered website in your post for learning is good, but there're definitely other good ones, such as 网络孔子学院 (wwwdotchineseciodotcom).
To facilitate clarity of communication one would have to begin to understand the question before it could be answered. The HAO you mentioned and to the point which I addressed in my question, "what is hao" Or specifically since you didn't get what I was asking, WHO is CH hao, mentioned in your itemized statements (labeled in item "2)? What or who is this CH hao and why do you reference this person place or thing as a point of interest? What is the importance of this person place or thing?
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *

2. For the second question mentioned in your post above, " from some aspect of understanding", it refers to the aspect of the mind feeling. It's not the "the Universal understanding" in the meaning of the generally-recognized or common understanding; as to "like the one that preceded man?", of course the understanding of this is not the layered human mind activities (according to CH hao) discussed here.
Then why did you interject some other kind of definition to mind?
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *
I thought there might be basic or fundmental understanding of some mind acitivities for brain functioning and brain center zone bridging the two hemispherical parts of the brain is the cause of the "mind speaking" or mind activities, according to CH hao via his theory of brain structure formation and his opinion on the mind activities with brain scope magnetic effects included. As I have stated in my previous posts as an independent poster in academic communications, I use my logic based on evidence. May it could help you for understanding. Though at present China is learning from other developed countries, but it doesn't mean the chinese could not make great science contribution in their past history.
If "Mind" discussed here is not the same term or subject as you are contributing how does your interjection of something out of context help in this conversation? Are you hoping to help by hijacking the conversation into something that brings the definition of mind back to the relative ideals of western science where everything external is the cause of consciousness and brain activity? Is your attempt to establish an alternate point of reference to mind, and the added note regarding CH hao and China some kind of advertisement for Chinese education via the internet as a socially established rule of thought?
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *

3. "Experience is one way to show your interest and span for the research, which has no direct links with the innovation and best practices.
In other words, no link to the subject at hand. Experience in something you believe is important seems to be your forte'.
In other words you seem to like giving an opinion where said opinion comes nowhere close to being a part of the subject within the conversation but rather as an intent to take over and route the conversation towards your own beliefs and ideals?
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *
In my opinion
exactly...
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *
, the continuing ability-based performance with interest is the key and the related recognition is important. I thought the essence of the education was the life-long learning and improvements, in which the so-called formal and regular education should be changed into the intensive and flexible learning aiming for the ability-based performances. To be a real intelligence neuroscientist or cognitive neuroscientist, you might need specialized ability-based performance and fund-included web-platform instead of a doctoral degree or post-doctoral medical background, or some professional training certificates or qualifications.
So what you suggest is that without checks and balances in the proof of successful application in the form of degrees or doctorates or diplomas stating that someone has observed and challenged the person in their knowledge and application of subject mastery, anyone could become "An expert" and should be able to without the paperwork and standard references in valid testimony.
Imagine going into a hospital and someone who claims to be self taught without having studied or practiced amidst some kind of standardized or observed point of reference in validation or noted level of understanding, meeting you and stating his belief that he can diagnose and operate on you successfully.
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *
"Learning and improving oneself is a life-long course.
Since the universe and all that is in it is too big to contain it is wise to consider that there is always more to learn and experience. However there is no reason to abandon the points of reference to subject matter accumulated thru research and lifetimes of effort and achievements. The future will bring new understanding and technologies that will shift the teachings and affect learning disciplines for relative courses of study, but this is still not the point of the subject at hand, nor does it really address the idea of mind being the playground of imagination as originally stated.
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *
To be earnest, degrees and diplomas or occupational certificates or qualifications, even the web courses are totally not necessary to the research, even in the future.
You are going to have trouble convincing anyone that you know enough to be an expert or even one worth listening to if all you have to validate yourself with, is a list of internet reading and self study declarations. Declarations like: I learned everything I know on the internet....

Kinda like a person saying: "I read every book in the library on medicine, anatomy, herbal teas, and acupuncture, so now I know all there is to know about being a doctor.." But in your case and based on YOUR beliefs it would be more like: "I read every book in the library on medicine, anatomy, herbal teas, and acupuncture, but until I read every book in every library for the rest of my life since mastery can't be captured or practiced in a single lifetime I'll just settle on making claims like.. "I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions."


QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 01:31 AM) *
Internet, specialized e-contents and the interest for the research, including the practicing and webforum, is necessary." from one poster in this forum.
In a cartoon world perhaps, where all you seek is the attention of others!


I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

1. As for Q1, feeling sorry for not noticing my previous posts in this forum, in which I mentioned "Our globe is an ecological system, and the stable dominant intelligent lives must be limited in some physical sizes such as the physical occuption and some bodily magnetic use as both in the community and as inviduals.In addition, there's no limit in the formimg process, namely the growth phrase and some conditions.If you'd like, you can call it Ch Hao' Intelligence Live Limit Theory. " and "As per Ch Hao's theories published as posters and emails earlier, the brain center zone is the brain center for dealing with information and memories, and also the center zone for the imagination functioning. " But one thing you might feel puzzle is that there are "CH hao" and "Ch hao". Actually, it's the same person. As for Q2, it's not "interject " but posting my opinions and theories. Definition must be scientific. As for Q3, " "Experience is one way", one aspect. Thanks.
As for Q4, you're talking about the required qualification for some profession or some occupation; while I refers to the essence of the education. Thanks again.
2. I feel sorry for the present education system, only experience could not well solve the problem we're facing.
3. "Experience is one way to show your interest and span for the research, which has no direct links with the innovation and best practices. In my opinion, the continuing ability-based performance with interest is the key and the related recognition is important. I thought the essence of the education was the life-long learning and improvements, in which the so-called formal and regular education should be changed into the intensive and flexible learning aiming for the ability-based performances. To be a real intelligence neuroscientist or cognitive neuroscientist, you might need specialized ability-based performance and fund-included web-platform instead of a doctoral degree or post-doctoral medical background, or some professional training certificates or qualifications. "Learning and improving oneself is a life-long course. To be earnest, degrees and diplomas or occupational certificates or qualifications, even the web courses are totally not necessary to the research, even in the future. Internet, specialized e-contents and the interest for the research, including the practicing and webforum, is necessary." from one poster in this forum.
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I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

You can always hope for the recognition in stating the facts as opined. But then they're not really facts but opinions aren't they.

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1. As for Q1, feeling sorry for not noticing my previous posts in this forum, in which I mentioned "Our globe is an ecological system, and the stable dominant intelligent lives must be limited in some physical sizes such as the physical occuption and some bodily magnetic use as both in the community and as inviduals.In addition, there's no limit in the formimg process, namely the growth phrase and some conditions.If you'd like, you can call it Ch Hao' Intelligence Live Limit Theory. " and "As per Ch Hao's theories published as posters and emails earlier, the brain center zone is the brain center for dealing with information and memories, and also the center zone for the imagination functioning. " But one thing you might feel puzzle is that there are "CH hao" and "Ch hao". Actually, it's the same person.

I can see you are unable/unwilling to answer the question of "Who is Ch Hao" (or who or what is hao, as it was posed in the previous post).
You seem to think the past references to your posts are credentials and or a valid history of who a person is. Most biographies consider a background that is a bit deeper and in depth than a year or two if internet activity on a public forum website.

As for your idea of memory and brain function: Due to the stress in the nervous system, no one has perfect recall since the receptive activity for perception is going to be clouded by the 50,000 thoughts a person has every day, burdened by the beliefs the ego has ingrained itself with its attachment to identity and the subsequent boundaries of focus.
In a given situation where there are multiple viewers, no two people see and experience the same thing. People say things like, "She/He made me do it" like the surface appearances forced their minds to comply to circumstances around them.
Memory is only clear when the awareness is unburdened by stress and experiencing the present moment, that is the potential of ones SELF. It (mind) is not clear when it is surrounded by the cage or limits of belief and opinion.
Again you might be off topic as to mind in the way this subject has begun in the original post. Everyone pulls from the same universal mind at the subconscious or super-conscious level, but opinions, like yours, coming from the surface of the mind as opinion, vary from person to person as they are clouded by belief, destabilizing any center or continuity in commonality. Like the old saying goes. Opinions are like assholes, Everyone has one..., but no single one is better than another (unless one is coming from absolute truth when compared to illusion).

You should look up the story about the 3 blind men and the elephant.

Each blind man, is led to a different part of the elephant and since they can't seen the entire elephant, each one (according to their experience) insists the part they touched and described is the elephant.
It isn't until a wise man suggests they pool their experiences that they can begin to fathom the entirety of the elephant by clinging to their personal experience and opinions about which part they touched and based their opinions on.
One touched the tail and said the elephant is like a rope. The other touched the trunk and said the elephant is like a snake, another touched the leg and said, the elephant is like a tree.


QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 09:52 AM) *
As for Q2, it's not "interject " but posting my opinions and theories.

It is an interjection of your beliefs, IF the belief is off topic based on what MIND is according to the original topic discussion.
It is clear you haven't presented an understanding of mind as it is defined or described by Spiritual science.
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 09:52 AM) *
Definition must be scientific.
In describing mind what kind of science is in your opinion, valid? You don't seem describe any scientific approach based on peer review, but rather, one of opinion and assumption.., or one extrapolated from surfing the internet and sharing either your opinion or a collection of opinions outside the structure of checks and balances.

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As for Q3, " "Experience is one way", one aspect. Thanks.
One way to what? You haven't really defined experience. Your descriptions so far are a bit vague...
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As for Q4, you're talking about the required qualification for some profession or some occupation; while I refers to the essence of the education. Thanks again.

No I'm talking about recognition and validation in association to pooled knowledge and experience.
Anyone can claim to be an expert and mouth off about having spent the time and effort to accumulate knowledge and understanding. But what is the proof of understanding and experience when there are no witnesses or standards of measure within a system? And you have presented a system called education.
Many speak of street smarts and experience in areas where others are ignorant, yet such a person claiming their fame and glory may have no proof of their street smarts.
They, like you, may offer an opinion that anyone can either believe or not believe. Beliefs are a funny thing. They are always changing, and are not a stable point of reference. And since most opinions are based on beliefs, they are always suspect, as well as subject to a persons character, their belief parameters, and their cognitive abilities.

No one of any right mind would simply accept the cover of a book as the content, and so it would be naive to accept an opinion of a person they didn't have familiarity with, or without knowing they were of stable mind.
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2. I feel sorry for the present education system, only experience could not well solve the problem we're facing.
You seem to present a belief in victimization, and that the individual is separate from the outer conditions of life. This is not within the description of mind if you take it in contexts of spiritual science.
Contrast is the inspiration for imagination, for will to take action and make choices.
Put a mouse in a cage and leave it with no options to choose its own path because it is chained to one spot, and it becomes detached and depressed, losing any imagination or energy to live. Give it contrast and options in where it can go and what it can do, and it will at least have a choice. Man is not bound to any single spot in reference to time or place. It can access something greater than any external points of reference with relative boundaries, by going inward and accessing the subtle senses.

The current education system at least gives one the ability to communicate and understand the basics to get along. Basic skills are all that are needed in order to take the next step from an introduction in how to relate to the relative world, regardless of the mass hallucination mankind is addicted to.

No education should form the opinions and beliefs of an individual, yet there are not a lot of people in the world who have any understanding of the nature of mind as it is, and how it can be tapped to expand both consciousness and ones direction in life based on how life is created in sync with the universe. Such schools of thought do exist, but for the most part, people nowadays would rather believe what they see and hear on the internet, or on social networks like Facebook. dry.gif

Choice is a fundamental part of the cognitive system attached and in sync with the nervous system, and even when the brain is severely damaged no one is without choice. A person who has a stroke, lives in a body that is separated from cognitive function, but the cognitive awareness of the Self still resides within the body and broken brain separated from mind, regardless of whether the body or mind reveals that fact to someone observing the person from their limited perspective.

If we weren't taught from the beginning of life to fear and to believe in the limits of the outward oriented senses, the mind would not be bound by the illusory terrors of imagination imposed by our parents and peers as a belief system.


Your interpretations of mind suggest mind is bound by rules in mechanical function, and that mind is the result of the outer conditions. Yet it is the other way around.

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3. "Experience is one way to show your interest and span for the research, which has no direct links with the innovation and best practices.
Experience comes from having utilized knowledge with the understanding that comes from interacting with a subject of interest. Taking an interest in something and taking it into a direction that is not linked to any other subject of interest is called exploration.

What it sounds like, in the way you describe experience is like saying your are going to travel to the west, but instead of going west, you begin traveling to the east. If the globe that is the earth is used as the ground on which you travel, you could still end up in the same place by traveling far enough to reach what you believed to be your destination in the west, but assuming that would require you have previous knowledge and experience in the round earth idea.
Some believed it was flat, and I hear some still do.


Just because you think you are innovative and rebellious in saying you can create a new wheel while ignoring the fact that it was already invented does not make you inventive or intelligent.

Until you do reinvent the wheel and it becomes the reality of everyone else, your opinion that you are doing so will not be so impressive.
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QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 09:52 AM) *


I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

You can always hope for the recognition in stating the facts as opined. But then they're not really facts but opinions aren't they.

QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 09, 2018, 09:52 AM) *

1. As for Q1, feeling sorry for not noticing my previous posts in this forum, in which I mentioned "Our globe is an ecological system, and the stable dominant intelligent lives must be limited in some physical sizes such as the physical occuption and some bodily magnetic use as both in the community and as inviduals.In addition, there's no limit in the formimg process, namely the growth phrase and some conditions.If you'd like, you can call it Ch Hao' Intelligence Live Limit Theory. " and "As per Ch Hao's theories published as posters and emails earlier, the brain center zone is the brain center for dealing with information and memories, and also the center zone for the imagination functioning. " But one thing you might feel puzzle is that there are "CH hao" and "Ch hao". Actually, it's the same person.

I can see you are unable/unwilling to answer the question of "Who is Ch Hao" (or who or what is hao, as it was posed in the previous post).
You seem to think the past references to your posts are credentials and or a valid history of who a person is. Most biographies consider a background that is a bit deeper and in depth than a year or two if internet activity on a public forum website.

As for your idea of memory and brain function: Due to the stress in the nervous system, no one has perfect recall since the receptive activity for perception is going to be clouded by the 50,000 thoughts a person has every day, burdened by the beliefs the ego has ingrained itself with its attachment to identity and the subsequent boundaries of focus.
In a given situation where there are multiple viewers, no two people see and experience the same thing. People say things like, "She/He made me do it" like the surface appearances forced their minds to comply to circumstances around them.
Memory is only clear when the awareness is unburdened by stress and experiencing the present moment, that is the potential of ones SELF. It (mind) is not clear when it is surrounded by the cage or limits of belief and opinion.
Again you might be off topic as to mind in the way this subject has begun in the original post. Everyone pulls from the same universal mind at the subconscious or super-conscious level, but opinions, like yours, coming from the surface of the mind as opinion, vary from person to person as they are clouded by belief, destabilizing any center or continuity in commonality. Like the old saying goes. Opinions are like assholes, Everyone has one..., but no single one is better than another (unless one is coming from absolute truth when compared to illusion).

You should look up the story about the 3 blind men and the elephant.

Each blind man, is led to a different part of the elephant and since they can't seen the entire elephant, each one (according to their experience) insists the part they touched and described is the elephant.
It isn't until a wise man suggests they pool their experiences that they can begin to fathom the entirety of the elephant by clinging to their personal experience and opinions about which part they touched and based their opinions on.
One touched the tail and said the elephant is like a rope. The other touched the trunk and said the elephant is like a snake, another touched the leg and said, the elephant is like a tree.


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As for Q2, it's not "interject " but posting my opinions and theories.

It is an interjection of your beliefs, IF the belief is off topic based on what MIND is according to the original topic discussion.
It is clear you haven't presented an understanding of mind as it is defined or described by Spiritual science.
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Definition must be scientific.
In describing mind what kind of science is in your opinion, valid? You don't seem describe any scientific approach based on peer review, but rather, one of opinion and assumption.., or one extrapolated from surfing the internet and sharing either your opinion or a collection of opinions outside the structure of checks and balances.

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As for Q3, " "Experience is one way", one aspect. Thanks.
One way to what? You haven't really defined experience. Your descriptions so far are a bit vague...
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As for Q4, you're talking about the required qualification for some profession or some occupation; while I refers to the essence of the education. Thanks again.

No I'm talking about recognition and validation in association to pooled knowledge and experience.
Anyone can claim to be an expert and mouth off about having spent the time and effort to accumulate knowledge and understanding. But what is the proof of understanding and experience when there are no witnesses or standards of measure within a system? And you have presented a system called education.
Many speak of street smarts and experience in areas where others are ignorant, yet such a person claiming their fame and glory may have no proof of their street smarts.
They, like you, may offer an opinion that anyone can either believe or not believe. Beliefs are a funny thing. They are always changing, and are not a stable point of reference. And since most opinions are based on beliefs, they are always suspect, as well as subject to a persons character, their belief parameters, and their cognitive abilities.

No one of any right mind would simply accept the cover of a book as the content, and so it would be naive to accept an opinion of a person they didn't have familiarity with, or without knowing they were of stable mind.
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2. I feel sorry for the present education system, only experience could not well solve the problem we're facing.
You seem to present a belief in victimization, and that the individual is separate from the outer conditions of life. This is not within the description of mind if you take it in contexts of spiritual science.
Contrast is the inspiration for imagination, for will to take action and make choices.
Put a mouse in a cage and leave it with no options to choose its own path because it is chained to one spot, and it becomes detached and depressed, losing any imagination or energy to live. Give it contrast and options in where it can go and what it can do, and it will at least have a choice. Man is not bound to any single spot in reference to time or place. It can access something greater than any external points of reference with relative boundaries, by going inward and accessing the subtle senses.

The current education system at least gives one the ability to communicate and understand the basics to get along. Basic skills are all that are needed in order to take the next step from an introduction in how to relate to the relative world, regardless of the mass hallucination mankind is addicted to.

No education should form the opinions and beliefs of an individual, yet there are not a lot of people in the world who have any understanding of the nature of mind as it is, and how it can be tapped to expand both consciousness and ones direction in life based on how life is created in sync with the universe. Such schools of thought do exist, but for the most part, people nowadays would rather believe what they see and hear on the internet, or on social networks like Facebook. dry.gif

Choice is a fundamental part of the cognitive system attached and in sync with the nervous system, and even when the brain is severely damaged no one is without choice. A person who has a stroke, lives in a body that is separated from cognitive function, but the cognitive awareness of the Self still resides within the body and broken brain separated from mind, regardless of whether the body or mind reveals that fact to someone observing the person from their limited perspective.

If we weren't taught from the beginning of life to fear and to believe in the limits of the outward oriented senses, the mind would not be bound by the illusory terrors of imagination imposed by our parents and peers as a belief system.


Your interpretations of mind suggest mind is bound by rules in mechanical function, and that mind is the result of the outer conditions. Yet it is the other way around.

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3. "Experience is one way to show your interest and span for the research, which has no direct links with the innovation and best practices.
Experience comes from having utilized knowledge with the understanding that comes from interacting with a subject of interest. Taking an interest in something and taking it into a direction that is not linked to any other subject of interest is called exploration.

What it sounds like, in the way you describe experience is like saying your are going to travel to the west, but instead of going west, you begin traveling to the east. If the globe that is the earth is used as the ground on which you travel, you could still end up in the same place by traveling far enough to reach what you believed to be your destination in the west, but assuming that would require you have previous knowledge and experience in the round earth idea.
Some believed it was flat, and I hear some still do.


Just because you think you are innovative and rebellious in saying you can create a new wheel while ignoring the fact that it was already invented does not make you inventive or intelligent.

Until you do reinvent the wheel and it becomes the reality of everyone else, your opinion that you are doing so will not be so impressive.


I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

1. As to "You can always hope for the recognition in stating the facts as opined." in your statement above, I just state the truth. I'm a person mainly keening on neuro-brain science. As for "You seem to think the past references to your posts are credentials and or a valid history of who a person is.", its all my posts and I thought that it might be easy to know in a cyber society.

2. As for your statement "As for your idea of memory and brain function: Due to the stress in the nervous system, no one has perfect recall since the receptive activity for perception is going to be clouded by the 50,000 thoughts a person has every day, burdened by the beliefs the ego has ingrained itself with its attachment to identity and the subsequent boundaries of focus." above, I couldn't find I have posted related opinions or theories and subtheories after "::, and also "Your interpretations of mind suggest mind is bound by rules in mechanical function". I thought it's an interaction with the surrounding environment in my theory system, including the compression. Acutually, I thought I have posted "mind acitivities", because it's matter in essence, which are all could be found in my previous post. I thought my posts deserve full reading even for some purpose.

In addition, I discuss the topic in the definition of science instead of just merely mind feeling, though I thought it's important and sometimes helpful. As for your statement "In describing mind what kind of science is in your opinion, valid? You don't seem describe any scientific approach based on peer review, but rather, one of opinion and assumption.., or one extrapolated from surfing the internet and sharing either your opinion or a collection of opinions outside the structure of checks and balances.", it's a theory system and should it must be balanced instead of a whole one? As for "No I'm talking about recognition and validation in association to pooled knowledge and experience. ", I thought I'm saying scientific and technological research.

I didn't think there's no need for education instead of present school education, because it needs much imporvement.

3. "Experience is one way to show your interest and span for the research, which has no direct links with the innovation and best practices. In my opinion, the continuing ability-based performance with interest is the key and the related recognition is important. I thought the essence of the education was the life-long learning and improvements, in which the so-called formal and regular education should be changed into the intensive and flexible learning aiming for the ability-based performances. To be a real intelligence neuroscientist or cognitive neuroscientist, you might need specialized ability-based performance and fund-included web-platform instead of a doctoral degree or post-doctoral medical background, or some professional training certificates or qualifications. "Learning and improving oneself is a life-long course. To be earnest, degrees and diplomas or occupational certificates or qualifications, even the web courses are totally not necessary to the research, even in the future. Internet, specialized e-contents and the interest for the research, including the practicing and webforum, is necessary." from one poster in this forum.
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1. As to "You can always hope for the recognition in stating the facts as opined." in your statement above, I just state the truth.

Truth according to hao..
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 11, 2018, 02:45 AM) *

I'm a person mainly keening on neuro-brain science. As for "You seem to think the past references to your posts are credentials and or a valid history of who a person is.", its all my posts and I thought that it might be easy to know in a cyber society.

Once again,.. it doesn't serve as credentials to repeatedly post the same opinion and assume repetition forced validity in recognition and background.
Are you suggesting you are a cyber celebrity? huh.gif wacko.gif
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I thought I have posted "mind acitivities", because it's matter in essence, which are all could be found in my previous post. I thought my posts deserve full reading even for some purpose.

That is really special. I'm glad for you. And it shows that you think that, because you repeat the same thing over and over in every post. However I've been addressing an expanded version of mind and you seem to be unable to be flexible in the conversation due to your repetition. It would seem that you are inwardly screaming for attention and recognition based on the fact that you say the same thing over and over and over ...ad nauseum...
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 11, 2018, 02:45 AM) *

In addition, I discuss the topic in the definition of science instead of just merely mind feeling, though I thought it's important and sometimes helpful.

Like I said, science is relative. You have no experience in the facts surrounding spiritual science but rather find yourself exclusively promoting your own thoughts and opinions based on what you identify with as theoretical science.. or as you more aptly appoint yourself to "Theoretical Cyber Science"
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As for your statement "In describing mind what kind of science is in your opinion, valid?: it's a theory system and should it must be balanced instead of a whole one? I thought I'm saying scientific and technological research.
Right, theory and bench science. You speak of balance. Yet what you prescribe and subscribe to, does not include feelings, intuition, or practical application of mental discipline and use of the senses in any other state of consciousness than what is known within the three states of consciousness, subjectively and objectively described as sleeping dreaming and waking states.
There are 7 states of consciousness referenced in Spiritual science. The 4 states described within Spiritual Science (above and beyond sleeping, dreaming and waking), reveal greater cognitive function and expanded awareness than what is recognized by western science as it relies on the function of mind in one state of consciousness. The one where your eyes are open and you make opinions (the same ones over and over again). Or said another way, the state of mind where one is constantly seeking to glorify opinion as a means to self gratification (mental masturbation followed by the illusions of self grandeur).

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QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 11, 2018, 02:45 AM) *

1. As to "You can always hope for the recognition in stating the facts as opined." in your statement above, I just state the truth.

Truth according to hao..
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 11, 2018, 02:45 AM) *

I'm a person mainly keening on neuro-brain science. As for "You seem to think the past references to your posts are credentials and or a valid history of who a person is.", its all my posts and I thought that it might be easy to know in a cyber society.

Once again,.. it doesn't serve as credentials to repeatedly post the same opinion and assume repetition forced validity in recognition and background.
Are you suggesting you are a cyber celebrity? huh.gif wacko.gif
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 11, 2018, 02:45 AM) *

I thought I have posted "mind acitivities", because it's matter in essence, which are all could be found in my previous post. I thought my posts deserve full reading even for some purpose.

That is really special. I'm glad for you. And it shows that you think that, because you repeat the same thing over and over in every post. However I've been addressing an expanded version of mind and you seem to be unable to be flexible in the conversation due to your repetition. It would seem that you are inwardly screaming for attention and recognition based on the fact that you say the same thing over and over and over ...ad nauseum...
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 11, 2018, 02:45 AM) *

In addition, I discuss the topic in the definition of science instead of just merely mind feeling, though I thought it's important and sometimes helpful.

Like I said, science is relative. You have no experience in the facts surrounding spiritual science but rather find yourself exclusively promoting your own thoughts and opinions based on what you identify with as theoretical science.. or as you more aptly appoint yourself to "Theoretical Cyber Science"
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 11, 2018, 02:45 AM) *
As for your statement "In describing mind what kind of science is in your opinion, valid?: it's a theory system and should it must be balanced instead of a whole one? I thought I'm saying scientific and technological research.
Right, theory and bench science. You speak of balance. Yet what you prescribe and subscribe to, does not include feelings, intuition, or practical application of mental discipline and use of the senses in any other state of consciousness than what is known within the three states of consciousness, subjectively and objectively described as sleeping dreaming and waking states.
There are 7 states of consciousness referenced in Spiritual science. The 4 states described within Spiritual Science (above and beyond sleeping, dreaming and waking), reveal greater cognitive function and expanded awareness than what is recognized by western science as it relies on the function of mind in one state of consciousness. The one where your eyes are open and you make opinions (the same ones over and over again). Or said another way, the state of mind where one is constantly seeking to glorify opinion as a means to self gratification (mental masturbation followed by the illusions of self grandeur).

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QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 11, 2018, 02:45 AM) *

1. As to "You can always hope for the recognition in stating the facts as opined." in your statement above, I just state the truth.

Truth according to hao..
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 11, 2018, 02:45 AM) *

I'm a person mainly keening on neuro-brain science. As for "You seem to think the past references to your posts are credentials and or a valid history of who a person is.", its all my posts and I thought that it might be easy to know in a cyber society.

Once again,.. it doesn't serve as credentials to repeatedly post the same opinion and assume repetition forced validity in recognition and background.
Are you suggesting you are a cyber celebrity? huh.gif wacko.gif
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 11, 2018, 02:45 AM) *

I thought I have posted "mind acitivities", because it's matter in essence, which are all could be found in my previous post. I thought my posts deserve full reading even for some purpose.

That is really special. I'm glad for you. And it shows that you think that, because you repeat the same thing over and over in every post. However I've been addressing an expanded version of mind and you seem to be unable to be flexible in the conversation due to your repetition. It would seem that you are inwardly screaming for attention and recognition based on the fact that you say the same thing over and over and over ...ad nauseum...
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 11, 2018, 02:45 AM) *

In addition, I discuss the topic in the definition of science instead of just merely mind feeling, though I thought it's important and sometimes helpful.

Like I said, science is relative. You have no experience in the facts surrounding spiritual science but rather find yourself exclusively promoting your own thoughts and opinions based on what you identify with as theoretical science.. or as you more aptly appoint yourself to "Theoretical Cyber Science"
QUOTE(haohao @ Jan 11, 2018, 02:45 AM) *
As for your statement "In describing mind what kind of science is in your opinion, valid?: it's a theory system and should it must be balanced instead of a whole one? I thought I'm saying scientific and technological research.
Right, theory and bench science. You speak of balance. Yet what you prescribe and subscribe to, does not include feelings, intuition, or practical application of mental discipline and use of the senses in any other state of consciousness than what is known within the three states of consciousness, subjectively and objectively described as sleeping dreaming and waking states.
There are 7 states of consciousness referenced in Spiritual science. The 4 states described within Spiritual Science (above and beyond sleeping, dreaming and waking), reveal greater cognitive function and expanded awareness than what is recognized by western science as it relies on the function of mind in one state of consciousness. The one where your eyes are open and you make opinions (the same ones over and over again). Or said another way, the state of mind where one is constantly seeking to glorify opinion as a means to self gratification (mental masturbation followed by the illusions of self grandeur).


1. As for your statement from "Truth according to hao.." above , it's clear that I have stated that the fact that I'm not a professor and hope I can provide suggestive opinions is a truth, the same meaning of the truth, but no my theories must be truth, because it's my theories and need to be tested.

As to the statement from "Are you suggesting you are a cyber celebrity?" above, is there any suggesting, or just your mind imagination?

As to the statement from "it shows that you think that, because you repeat the same thing over and over in every post. " above, it's topic discussion, and I just state my opinions according to your questions, and all the same and of course not "everything".

2. As to " science is relative." and later the statement " theoretical science", I thought that I insist that my theories and subtheories is a theoritical system but not "theoretical science", because there're evidence stated in my previous posts.

As for "There are 7 states of consciousness referenced in Spiritual science.", though there're no mention of specific states, and I could say three layers and many more combinations, including the imagination.

3. "Experience is one way to show your interest and span for the research, which has no direct links with the innovation and best practices. In my opinion, the continuing ability-based performance with interest is the key and the related recognition is important. I thought the essence of the education was the life-long learning and improvements, in which the so-called formal and regular education should be changed into the intensive and flexible learning aiming for the ability-based performances. To be a real intelligence neuroscientist or cognitive neuroscientist, you might need specialized ability-based performance and fund-included web-platform instead of a doctoral degree or post-doctoral medical background, or some professional training certificates or qualifications. "Learning and improving oneself is a life-long course. To be earnest, degrees and diplomas or occupational certificates or qualifications, even the web courses are totally not necessary to the research, even in the future. Internet, specialized e-contents and the interest for the research, including the practicing and webforum, is necessary." from one poster in this forum.
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Mind invokes the universe – the universe nourishes mind.

(just pop`d out of my mind smile.gif )

I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

Of course not “Mind invokes the universe”, actions does and mind activities stimulate it if the word "invoke" means “cause” or "create an image" herein, but "the universe nourishes mind" is true.
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Mind invokes the universe – the universe nourishes mind.

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Right, and to witness it is something other than to simply think it.
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Mind invokes the universe – the universe nourishes mind.

(just pop`d out of my mind smile.gif )

Right, and to witness it is something other than to simply think it.

I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

Yes, but without necessary funding compared with constant government supports and title, professional ranks,etc.

"Experience is one way to show your interest and span for the research, which has no direct links with the innovation and best practices. In my opinion, the continuing ability-based performance with interest is the key and the related recognition is important. I thought the essence of the education was the life-long learning and improvements, in which the so-called formal and regular education should be changed into the intensive and flexible learning aiming for the ability-based performances. To be a real intelligence neuroscientist or cognitive neuroscientist, you might need specialized ability-based performance and fund-included web-platform instead of a doctoral degree or post-doctoral medical background, or some professional training certificates or qualifications. "Learning and improving oneself is a life-long course. To be earnest, degrees and diplomas or occupational certificates or qualifications, even the web courses are totally not necessary to the research, even in the future. Internet, specialized e-contents and the interest for the research, including the practicing and webforum, is necessary." from one poster in this forum.
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Right, and to witness it is something other than to simply think it.


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I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

It's theories. So if you judge it "rubbish", I just admire your opinions.
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I just admire your opinions.

What exactly IS it that you admire?
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I just admire your opinions.

What exactly IS it that you admire?

I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

" if you judge it "rubbish""
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I think Forrest Gump referenced a quote from "momma" that would fit this scenario....
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The reflection/projection capability of mind is the cause of many of its controversies – and their solution as well, since it can bring about a self-awareness that supersedes subjective/objective, internal/external, me/you dualism and respective mirror-rooms.
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The reflection/projection capability of mind is the cause of many of its controversies – and their solution as well, since it can bring about a self-awareness that supersedes subjective/objective, internal/external, me/you dualism and respective mirror-rooms.

I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

I agree with the opinion that "The reflection/projection capability of mind is the cause of many of its controversies" , but it's the functioning of mind activities, whichi is one of the functioning to be used for interactions with the surrounding environment. The real problem is that sometimes it may lead to overdoing without the testing of interactions with the surrounding environment.
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The real problem is that sometimes it may lead to overdoing without the testing of interactions with the surrounding environment.
Or in your case, doing without knowing what you are doing as it relates to the topic of discussion.

Tell me something. When you enter into a discussion with someone in your family, do you begin with the same disclaimer ("I'm not a professor") before you start the discussion?
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The real problem is that sometimes it may lead to overdoing without the testing of interactions with the surrounding environment.
Or in your case, doing without knowing what you are doing as it relates to the topic of discussion.

Tell me something. When you enter into a discussion with someone in your family, do you begin with the same disclaimer ("I'm not a professor") before you start the discussion?

I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

No. But it is the academic discussion and since I don't obtain an academical position or receive any related funding, I may have to state my theories and subtheories (not my theory system itself) as a starter.

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The real problem is that sometimes it may lead to overdoing without the testing of interactions with the surrounding environment.
Or in your case, doing without knowing what you are doing as it relates to the topic of discussion.

Tell me something. When you enter into a discussion with someone in your family, do you begin with the same disclaimer ("I'm not a professor") before you start the discussion?

I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

No. But it is the academic discussion and since I don't obtain an academical position or receive any related funding, I may have to state my theories and subtheories (not my theory system itself) as a starter.



Recommend as a starter "Zen sayings & poems"

(you will find plenty in Google search)
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Mind can be viewed as a condensation of Consciousness – a microcosm that relates the macrocosm. In such case macrocosm is the inter/extrapolation space (sphere) of microcosms.

“The Khabs is in the Khu, not the Khu in the Khabs.”
"Worship then the Khabs, and behold my light shed over you." (Liber Al vel Legis)
Khabs = matter
Khu = energy, light

"What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses" (Einstein)



The relativity theory appeared at the same time as “Liber Al vel Legis” (also known as “Book of the Law”).
Both brought about profound changes in the way we conceive and handle energy & matter, consciousness & mind.

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QUOTE(waechter418 @ Mar 11, 2018, 11:33 PM) *

Mind can be viewed as a condensation of Consciousness – a microcosm that relates the macrocosm. In such case macrocosm is the inter/extrapolation space (sphere) of microcosms.

“The Khabs is in the Khu, not the Khu in the Khabs.”
"Worship then the Khabs, and behold my light shed over you." (Liber Al vel Legis)
Khabs = matter
Khu = energy, light

"What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses" (Einstein)



The relativity theory appeared at the same time as “Liber Al vel Legis” (also known as “Book of the Law”).
Both brought about profound changes in the way we conceive and handle energy & matter, consciousness & mind.



QUOTE(waechter418 @ Mar 11, 2018, 11:33 PM) *

Mind can be viewed as a condensation of Consciousness – a microcosm that relates the macrocosm. In such case macrocosm is the inter/extrapolation space (sphere) of microcosms.

“The Khabs is in the Khu, not the Khu in the Khabs.”
"Worship then the Khabs, and behold my light shed over you." (Liber Al vel Legis)
Khabs = matter
Khu = energy, light

"What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses" (Einstein)



The relativity theory appeared at the same time as “Liber Al vel Legis” (also known as “Book of the Law”).
Both brought about profound changes in the way we conceive and handle energy & matter, consciousness & mind.



I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.

1. In some aspects, yes. As to the statement "Mind can be viewed as a condensation of Consciousness "from above, in my opinion, I thought it might be "mind can be viewed as a processor of Consciousness". "Actually, it's the functioning of mind activities, which is one of the functioning to be used for interactions with the surrounding environment. The real problem is that sometimes it may lead to overdoing without the testing of interactions with the surrounding environment. It's magnetic effects in essence. "

2. As to your statement "What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses" (Einstein)" from above, in some aspect, yes. In my opinion, electromagnetic particles.

3. "Experience is one way to show your interest and span for the research, which has no direct links with the innovation and best practices. In my opinion, the continuing ability-based performance with interest is the key and the related recognition is important. I thought the essence of the education was the life-long learning and improvements, in which the so-called formal and regular education should be changed into the intensive and flexible learning aiming for the ability-based performances. To be a real intelligence neuroscientist or cognitive neuroscientist, you might need specialized ability-based performance and fund-included web-platform instead of a doctoral degree or post-doctoral medical background, or some professional training certificates or qualifications. "Learning and improving oneself is a life-long course. To be earnest, degrees and diplomas or occupational certificates or qualifications, even the web courses are totally not necessary to the research, even in the future. Internet, specialized e-contents and the interest for the research, including the practicing and webforum, is necessary." from one poster in this forum.
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QUOTE(hooeyhooey @ Mar 14, 2018, 09:26 AM) *



I'm not a Professor, and hope I could provide some suggestive opinions.
suggestive maybe to someone who doesn't know any better, but usually, (at least on this forum and in these conversations) not within the scope of the conversation dry.gif
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1. In some aspects, yes. As to the statement "Mind can be viewed as a condensation of Consciousness "from above, in my opinion, I thought it might be "mind can be viewed as a processor of Consciousness".

You are still thinking mind is contained within the fleshy gray matter within the skull. Sort of like a radio being the source and cause of the music playing from it.

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"Actually, it's the functioning of mind activities, which is one of the functioning to be used for interactions with the surrounding environment. The real problem is that sometimes it may lead to overdoing without the testing of interactions with the surrounding environment. It's magnetic effects in essence. "
Now you are speaking of personality interaction or choice. Free will. How does free will equate to a processor?

If it weren't for some entertainment value, I think I could hate myself for initiating this conversation... ohmy.gif wink.gif rolleyes.gif
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