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post Sep 17, 2006, 10:16 AM
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I want to know enough about my body to minimize the need for doctors. In the far future, I intend to be self-sufficient--with non-sentient robots taking care of my body. As I become a machine, the requirements for care will change. But I want it done by a non-sentient robot!

There are good health plans for people who want to be clued about their body. Catastrophic care, for example. It can be a lot cheaper. I don't want to go see a specialist for something I can look up on wikipedia.
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post Sep 17, 2006, 11:12 AM
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would you want a wikipedian doing open heart surgery on you? I'd go with the specialist.
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post Sep 17, 2006, 11:30 AM
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would you want a wikipedian doing open heart surgery on you? I'd go with the specialist.

Thus the catastrophic insurance. But if I can locate sources for drugs or learn at least a little bit about my body--I'd rather do that.
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post Sep 17, 2006, 01:06 PM
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would you want a wikipedian doing open heart surgery on you? I'd go with the specialist.

Thus the catastrophic insurance. But if I can locate sources for drugs or learn at least a little bit about my body--I'd rather do that.
Does anyone know if Keven Trudeau is sincere, honest and for real? http://www.naturalcures.com/
If he is not, he is obviously a fraud. If he knows what he is talking about, is moral, ethical and sincere, it could that he has some answers, which may be helpful.
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post Sep 17, 2006, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(Lindsay @ Sep 17, 2006, 09:06 PM) *

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would you want a wikipedian doing open heart surgery on you? I'd go with the specialist.

Thus the catastrophic insurance. But if I can locate sources for drugs or learn at least a little bit about my body--I'd rather do that.
Does anyone know if Keven Trudeau is sincere, honest and for real? http://www.naturalcures.com/
If he is not, he is obviously a fraud. If he knows what he is talking about, is moral, ethical and sincere, it could that he has some answers, which may be helpful.

OK. You are prone to mysticism, I suspect. Run. Do not walk. Away from this person.
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post Sep 17, 2006, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(Dianah @ Sep 17, 2006, 07:35 PM) *
An insightful, significant and contributing scientist, I would venture to say… would silently lay claim to being a mystic as well…


Einstein for example. In fact, many of the founding fathers of quantum mechanics in the early 20th century had mystical inclinations, like Schrodinger and Pauli.
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post Sep 17, 2006, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(Dianah @ Sep 17, 2006, 06:35 PM) *

Cybert

You have not only physically but emotionally cut yourself and separated yourself…from what you feel. Your responses to date reflect the ‘dry’ intellectual responses of the ‘robot’ (unfeeling) you desire to be. To be balanced requires emotional and intellectual stability…your self castration (if that is indeed true) is just that…castration….the attempt to take away or eliminate that which you cannot bring into balance within your psyche.

Try as one might…what they are…cannot be ignored or cut away.

An insightful, significant and contributing scientist, I would venture to say… would silently lay claim to being a mystic as well…

You're on to something about Cybert, Dianah. Carry on...
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post Sep 18, 2006, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(Dianah @ Sep 18, 2006, 02:35 AM) *

Cybert

You have not only physically but emotionally cut yourself and separated yourself…from what you feel. Your responses to date reflect the ‘dry’ intellectual responses of the ‘robot’ (unfeeling) you desire to be. To be balanced requires emotional and intellectual stability…your self castration (if that is indeed true) is just that…castration….the attempt to take away or eliminate that which you cannot bring into balance within your psyche.

Try as one might…what they are…cannot be ignored or cut away.

An insightful, significant and contributing scientist, I would venture to say… would silently lay claim to being a mystic as well…

Mysticism is overrated. So is religion.
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post Sep 18, 2006, 04:37 PM
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would you want a wikipedian doing open heart surgery on you? I'd go with the specialist.

Thus the catastrophic insurance. But if I can locate sources for drugs or learn at least a little bit about my body--I'd rather do that.
Does anyone know if Keven Trudeau is sincere, honest and for real? http://www.naturalcures.com/
If he is not, he is obviously a fraud. If he knows what he is talking about, is moral, ethical and sincere, it could that he has some answers, which may be helpful.


Blatant, outright Fraud.
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post Sep 18, 2006, 04:44 PM
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Max, you say that Kevin Trudeau is a
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Blatant, outright Fraud.
If this is true, do you have any evidence? Or, in the name of free enterprise, is it the American way, to let him get away with it?
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post Sep 18, 2006, 04:55 PM
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The Food and Drug administration. Aside from that I have a book called More Scams from the Great Beyond which was written several yeas ago and deals with this exact kind of crap.
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post Sep 18, 2006, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(Dianah @ Sep 19, 2006, 12:34 AM) *

There seems to be an interesting occurrence going with the board…called Cybert. This persona has struck a lot of chords…or pushed many ‘buttons’ …this is a predominately male board…and the presence of a castrated man has appeared…many key buttons are being ‘pushed’…money…dominance…maleness…

Interesting huh?

Hi. It is interesting. I used to be, of course, an intact male. I can see where they are coming from.
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post Sep 18, 2006, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(Dianah @ Sep 18, 2006, 04:34 PM) *

There seems to be an interesting occurrence going with the board…called Cybert. This persona has struck a lot of chords…or pushed many ‘buttons’ …this is a predominately male board…and the presence of a castrated man has appeared…many key buttons are being ‘pushed’…money…dominance…maleness…

Interesting huh?

LMAO!!!! So true! You just made me realize that I let this guys money comments get the best of me. And I thank you for that, Dianah. In reality, BM to me is a shrine. A shrine to science and to knowledge. But it's become much more than that over time. It has become my little hiding place where I can feel free in a way that nothing else does. It reminds me that there is hope for humanity and that I'm not alone in this thought. And as such, I view it as a sacred place where the hedious forces of evil that run this crazy world can not touch. And because of this, I guard BM with great jealousy. Thus I do my best to keep-off anything that reminds me of the cruel, corrupted outside world where evil forces of all nature rule; money being one of them. Therefore my reaction to Cybert; who so far has done a great job of sending all kinds of mixed signals with his posts. On the one hand, he seems to grasp the purpose of this forum with his posts about science and such; and then he turns right around to ask such cheap and mundane questions such as my money status. I think you hit the nail right in the head, though. He knows that he's getting some of us' juices running with his money comments, so he is enjoying himself annoying us just for the heck of it. And he's laughing at it too!
Funny thing, though: thanks to you I'm finally able to relax and laught at the whole thing myself! So I thank you for that, Dianah.
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post Sep 18, 2006, 06:44 PM
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heh good to hear it buttons, dont get pushed! LOL

whatdya think of the avatar?
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post Sep 18, 2006, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(maximus242 @ Sep 18, 2006, 06:44 PM) *

whatdya think of the avatar?

Pretty stinking cool, my friend! I'd always wonder what kept you from putting one up. I guess you saved the best for last. I'd help if you explained it a little bit, thought. I dare not to describe what I think I see, at the risk of disrespecting its meaning and your intentions with it.
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post Sep 18, 2006, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(code buttons @ Sep 19, 2006, 02:41 AM) *

QUOTE(Dianah @ Sep 18, 2006, 04:34 PM) *

There seems to be an interesting occurrence going with the board…called Cybert. This persona has struck a lot of chords…or pushed many ‘buttons’ …this is a predominately male board…and the presence of a castrated man has appeared…many key buttons are being ‘pushed’…money…dominance…maleness…

Interesting huh?

LMAO!!!! So true! You just made me realize that I let this guys money comments get the best of me. And I thank you for that, Dianah. In reality, BM to me is a shrine. A shrine to science and to knowledge. But it's become much more than that over time. It has become my little hiding place where I can feel free in a way that nothing else does. It reminds me that there is hope for humanity and that I'm not alone in this thought. And as such, I view it as a sacred place where the hedious forces of evil that run this crazy world can not touch. And because of this, I guard BM with great jealousy. Thus I do my best to keep-off anything that reminds me of the cruel, corrupted outside world where evil forces of all nature rule; money being one of them. Therefore my reaction to Cybert; who so far has done a great job of sending all kinds of mixed signals with his posts. On the one hand, he seems to grasp the purpose of this forum with his posts about science and such; and then he turns right around to ask such cheap and mundane questions such as my money status. I think you hit the nail right in the head, though. He knows that he's getting some of us' juices running with his money comments, so he is enjoying himself annoying us just for the heck of it. And he's laughing at it too!
Funny thing, though: thanks to you I'm finally able to relax and laught at the whole thing myself! So I thank you for that, Dianah.


Yes. I'm tweaking people. I've been kicked off many boards for doing it. I know it. I do it because I want to poke fun at the way the world is. To exagerate the most depressing parts of the world. Money will be the first thing to go come singularity. So will gender. So I exagerate them to make a point.

But I think I agree with you on some very important things--transhumanism and hope for the future among them. I have a lot of hope.
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post Sep 18, 2006, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(code buttons @ Sep 18, 2006, 09:10 PM) *

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whatdya think of the avatar?

Pretty stinking cool, my friend! I'd always wonder what kept you from putting one up. I guess you saved the best for last. I'd help if you explained it a little bit, thought. I dare not to describe what I think I see, at the risk of disrespecting its meaning and your intentions with it.


Well its a sketch done by Leonardo Da Vinci, its a study of how draperies look on a person and although it looks simple on the front, it has some very complex fundamentals that Leonardo has applied to it. He had a sort of not to hot, not to cold approach to making it, if the Drapery revealed to much of the bodies actual form, it would look like a very thin piece of cloth, too little form and it wouldnt look realistic. So Instead he hit the major points that are furthest away from the center of the legs and emphasized those, even the largest muscles in the legs create certain fluctuations in the cloth. The end result is another masterpiece, I chose it not only because I am a fan of Leonardo Da Vinci's work but because this incospicous, seemingly simple picture is filled with complex ideas and thoughts behind it, much like Philosophy.
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post Sep 18, 2006, 07:45 PM
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... I chose it...because this incospicous, seemingly simple picture is filled with complex ideas and thoughts behind it, much like Philosophy.

Much like you, Mad-Max...
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hehe good, then it will fit me well
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QUOTE(maximus242 @ Sep 19, 2006, 03:52 AM) *

hehe good, then it will fit me well

Capitilization. Sentences. Use them. Please.
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QUOTE(maximus242 @ Sep 19, 2006, 03:52 AM) *

hehe good, then it will fit me well


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Capitilization. Sentences. Use them. Please.


I hope that you are joking.

See the irony of your comment?

That was not even a sentence.

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QUOTE(Dianah @ Sep 19, 2006, 06:20 PM) *

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gives ya big ole smile

Back at ya, Dianah! I'm still laughing my butt off reading this thread!
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QUOTE(Dianah @ Sep 20, 2006, 02:18 AM) *

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Yes. I'm tweaking people. I've been kicked off many boards for doing it. I know it. I do it because I want to poke fun at the way the world is. To exagerate the most depressing parts of the world. Money will be the first thing to go come singularity. So will gender. So I exagerate them to make a point.

But I think I agree with you on some very important things--transhumanism and hope for the future among them. I have a lot of hope.


I perceive that you exaggerate and poke fun at others… to feel (what you will not allow yourself to feel) vicariously through others…

So I won't feel indignant when someone tries to push money around? I don't catch you there. I'll just smirk and note that things won't always be that way. I'm poking fun at the money concept. The gender concept. I have no real gender now. And I don't have much money!
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QUOTE(Dianah @ Sep 18, 2006, 04:34 PM) *

There seems to be an interesting occurrence going with the board…called Cybert. This persona has struck a lot of chords…or pushed many ‘buttons’ …this is a predominately male board…and the presence of a castrated man has appeared…many key buttons are being ‘pushed’…money…dominance…maleness…

Interesting huh?


Well spotted Dianah!
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