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Posted by: Enki Aug 30, 2008, 02:07 PM

A message via Michael . wink.gif
It looks like that Ms. Calypso is going to punish the Pirates from Bones & Skulls.
Hmmm, Gustav, Gustav what a familiar name? Oh, high Kids, how are you doing?
Honestly I do not stand behind the hurricane, all objections to Ms. Calypso.

QUOTE
Moore Under Fire for Saying Gustav Proof ‘There Is a God’
by FOXNews.com
Saturday, August 30, 2008

Louisiana Rep. Steve Scalise is calling on liberal filmmaker Michael Moore to apologize after he said Friday that the timing of Hurricane Gustav is “proof that there is a God in heaven,” since the storm approaching the Gulf Coast could disrupt next week’s Republican National Convention.

Moore made the remarks to MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann. Republicans have been monitoring the storm’s progress, considering whether to postpone their convention in St. Paul, Minn., if the storm wreaks havoc on the New Orleans area, just three years after Hurricane Katrina.

“I was just thinking, this Gustav is proof that there is a God in heaven,” Moore said. “To just have it planned at the same time, that it would actually be on its way to New Orleans for Day One of the Republican convention, up in the Twin Cities, at the top of the Mississippi River.”

Scalise released a statement Saturday blasting the documentary filmmaker for the remarks.

“I demand an immediate apology from Michael Moore to the people of south Louisiana for his offensive and inappropriate comments,” said Scalise, a Republican. “People in Louisiana, regardless of political affiliation, are making plans to leave to protect their families from this serious storm, and the God I know would not share Michael Moore’s glee for our plight.”

Residents of New Orleans and the surrounding area have to started to evacuate, while the storm strengthened to a Category 4 hurricane.

Moore seemed to back off his statement on air Friday, later saying, “I mean I certainly hope nobody gets hurt. I hope everybody’s taking cover.”

Posted by: Enki Aug 30, 2008, 02:10 PM

I should say that something strange goes on around the world. Something really strange. It looks like that some play very strange game.

Posted by: code buttons Aug 30, 2008, 03:45 PM

QUOTE(Enki @ Aug 30, 2008, 02:10 PM) *

I should say that something strange goes on around the world. Something really strange. It looks like that some play very strange game.

Tasteless, of Mr. Moore. Unacceptable remarks. On a much lighter note, guess who's back in the BM family!

Posted by: Enki Sep 01, 2008, 04:41 PM

QUOTE(code buttons @ Aug 30, 2008, 03:45 PM) *

guess who's back in the BM family!


Yap, that is great! I know! Civilization is back!

Posted by: Hey Hey Sep 01, 2008, 04:51 PM

Did someone find god whilst I was away on holidays? Damn, always happens when I'm away!

Posted by: Enki Sep 01, 2008, 05:26 PM

QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Sep 01, 2008, 04:51 PM) *

Did someone find god whilst I was away on holidays? Damn, always happens when I'm away!


You know I made interesting comments about Mr. Indra and Mr. Osiris in the legendary Magic Mushrooms topic. I think you shall like that (Post #421, page 15 begins: "Gentlemen why we talk so much. Let us pass to the facts.", Jul 10, 2008, 08:08 AM ): http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=15357&st=420
And pay attantion to the comment over ABRAXAS as well. Post #438
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And I think Hey Hey you are of those people who shall understand the page Post #445 about Mr. Wendell Willkie and Madame Chiang Kai-shek... DMT Dragon...

We had many fluctuations here during your absence, e.g. I got a little bit uncertain for a while: been fighting with uncertain forces of the realm of unknown. wink.gif But now seems things have stabilized a little.

Posted by: Enki Sep 03, 2008, 02:45 AM

The Storm abated. If the next be called Moa instead of Gustav that will be pretty hilarious.

Posted by: Rick Sep 03, 2008, 07:05 AM

Michael Moore was using humor, as he usually does, to make a point. It's a lot less tasteless than seriously praying for rain on President Obama's speech.

Posted by: Enki Sep 03, 2008, 07:54 AM

QUOTE(Rick @ Sep 03, 2008, 07:05 AM) *

Michael Moore was using humor, as he usually does, to make a point. It's a lot less tasteless than seriously praying for rain on President Obama's speech.


You know Rick, while he is making humor I do too. Certainly there is something funny in all this, but who knows...

Posted by: Rick Sep 03, 2008, 07:56 AM

Like gold, humor is where you find it, I guess.

Posted by: Enki Sep 03, 2008, 08:16 AM

QUOTE(Rick @ Sep 03, 2008, 07:56 AM) *

Like gold, humor is where you find it, I guess.


Ya, and in case if I find it-the humor quite periodically, induction dictates existence of regularity with some certain probability, right?

Posted by: Joesus Sep 03, 2008, 08:17 AM

Political humor is nothing new...

http://extremewisdom.com/images/Best.wmv

Posted by: Rick Sep 03, 2008, 10:41 AM

I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a Democrat.

Here's another letter from Michael Moore:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/09/03-2

Posted by: Enki Sep 04, 2008, 02:37 AM

Gentlemen, I am really impressed by the name of the next Hurricane ... smile.gif Cool.

Ike ignites into 'extremely dangerous' Category 4 hurricane

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/weather/09/03/hurricane.hanna/index.html

MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Hurricane Ike grew from a Category 1 into a menacing Category 4 storm in about six hours Wednesday as it fed on the warm waters of Atlantic, the National Hurricane Center said.

"Ike is an extremely dangerous Category 4 hurricane" with 135-mph sustained winds, the center said in its 11 p.m. ET advisory.

Although it is likely to lose some strength during the next few days, Ike is forecast to regain Category 4 status by Monday, the center said.

Posted by: Enki Sep 06, 2008, 10:46 PM

Hurricane Ike Strengthens to Category 4, Raises Fears From Caribbean to Gulf

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,418142,00.html
Saturday, September 06, 2008

KEY WEST, Fla. — "Extremely dangerous" Hurricane Ike grew to fierce Category 4 strength Saturday as it roared on an uncertain path that forced millions from the Caribbean to Florida, and Louisiana to Mexico, to nervously wonder where it would eventually strike.

Preparations stretched more than 1,000 miles as the massive, 135-mph storm took a southwesterly shift that could send it over Cuba near the Florida Keys sometime Monday before heading into the warm open waters of the Gulf of Mexico. And once again, a possible target was New Orleans and the already storm-weary U.S. Gulf Coast.

Posted by: Enki Sep 06, 2008, 10:54 PM

I still wonder who selects the names of Hurricanes? Is it a random selection or there is some logic in it?

Posted by: Enki Sep 06, 2008, 11:24 PM

'Extremely dangerous' Ike pounds Turks and Caicos

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/weather/09/07/hurricane.ike.carib/

MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Hurricane Ike struck the Turks and Caicos Islands as a Category 4 storm late Saturday night with winds near 135 mph, according to the National Hurricane Center in Miami, Florida.

The outer bands of the storm brought fierce, palm-bending winds and a scattering of rain to the British crown colony that had already been pummeled this week for four days by Tropical Storm Hanna.

"People are losing roofs by the second," said Audley Astwood, a reporter at a radio station in Grand Turk said. "Close to 50 percent of the homes on Grand Turk have been destroyed or lost roofs."

In fact, Astwood said his own home lost its roof and his family was huddled in a bathroom.

Power was out over the whole island of Grand Turk, he said.

Posted by: Enki Sep 06, 2008, 11:26 PM

Very strange...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Turk_Island
Grand Turk Island is an island in the Turks and Caicos Islands. It is the largest island in the Turks Islands (not the Caicos) with 18 square kilometres. It contains the territory's capital, Cockburn Town. The island is the administrative, historic, cultural and financial centre of the territory, and has the second largest population of the islands at approximately 3,720 people.

Grand Turk gained international attention in 1962 when John Glenn's Friendship 7 Mercury spacecraft landed in the vicinity of Grand Turk Island off the southeast shoreline. A replica of the Friendship 7 is on display in Grand Turk at the entrance to the Grand Turk Island airport[1].

The name comes from a species of cactus on the island, the Turk's Cap Cactus (_Melocactus intortus_), which have a distinctive cap, reminiscient of a Turkish fez.

It is said to possibly be the landfall island of Christopher Columbus during his discovery of the New World in 1492.[citation needed] San Salvador Island or Samana Cay in the Bahamas is traditionally considered the site of Columbus' first landfall, some believe that studies of Columbus' journals show that his descriptions of Guanahani much more closely fit Grand Turk than they do other candidates.

Posted by: Enki Sep 06, 2008, 11:30 PM

It is really interesting, what Ms. Calypso wants to say?

Posted by: Enki Sep 07, 2008, 12:07 PM

Can you imagine how much US can save in dollars if Hurricanes matter can be negotiated with the Upper Beings?!

Can you imagine how many dish washing machines one Hurricane costs?

Hurricanes are known from the old times, once a Hurricane saved England from Spanish Armada. At those times possibly much respect was paid to Ms. Calypso I guess.

Posted by: Enki Sep 07, 2008, 07:20 PM

I still wonder who gives those names to the Hurricanes? A computer in a Random way?

Do you people remember I was quoting a paper which was discussing a possibility that Hurricanes can be in some way exhibiting elements of Intelligence?

Posted by: Enki Sep 07, 2008, 08:12 PM

An alchemical question: can a person on distance control the behavior of a Hurricane?

What the sages of Brain Meta think about that? wink.gif

Posted by: Rick Sep 08, 2008, 10:15 AM

QUOTE(Enki @ Sep 07, 2008, 08:20 PM) *

I still wonder who gives those names to the Hurricanes? A computer in a Random way?

Isn't Google wonderful?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclone_naming

Posted by: Enki Sep 08, 2008, 10:34 PM

QUOTE(Rick @ Sep 08, 2008, 10:15 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Sep 07, 2008, 08:20 PM) *

I still wonder who gives those names to the Hurricanes? A computer in a Random way?

Isn't Google wonderful?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclone_naming


Yes Google is a wonderful thing, but it does not clarify who makes the choice: Gentlemen or a Computer. At first glance it looks like that the choice was made by Gentlemen following some rules.

I read somewhere, that in Alchemical Wars Rick such unimportant details are important information, esp. when so many human lives are depending on whirls in air: on bifurcations...

Who knows, maybe it will gain category 5 in a time. Things happen. The question is why they happen.
And certainly if it gain category 6 or 7 that will be an extremely improbable event (as I never heard about category 6 and 7) but hardly that will help you to consider that as ‘credible evidence’. tongue.gif

Posted by: Rick Sep 09, 2008, 07:32 AM

The human mind has a tendency to read meaning into patterns into which no meaning was implanted. Knowing this helps to keep one somewhat immune to delusion.

Posted by: Enki Sep 09, 2008, 08:04 AM

I fully agree with you, indeed. But sometimes we may encounter with specific coincidences which may reveal interesting regularities inclining us to make outstanding discoveries about the true essence of the things. Science is a great quest. Certainly we should avoid delusions.

Experimental verification of any supposition is obligatory.
"Nullius in verba" - Hurricanes Forever Inc.

Posted by: code buttons Sep 09, 2008, 08:06 PM

QUOTE(Rick @ Sep 08, 2008, 10:15 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Sep 07, 2008, 08:20 PM) *

I still wonder who gives those names to the Hurricanes? A computer in a Random way?

Isn't Google wonderful?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclone_naming

Yea, it's wonderful. But I'm begining to worry a little bit about their seemingly boundless ambition. The word "monopoly" is already bouncing around amongst goverment internet regulators' circles. I for one decided against downlowding their "BETA" toolbar software, and they already stopped offering it to me. I decided to stick with MSN for now.

Posted by: Enki Sep 09, 2008, 10:08 PM

Code buttons you do not like Enkipedia! I wonder!!!
I have been waiting for the project realization for centuries!!!

Posted by: Enki Sep 10, 2008, 08:50 PM

Ohhh people of Texas, a huge hurricane is coming upon your land. Rick likes to quote Freud that sometimes cigar is just a cigar. But hurricane is not just a hurricane, it is something more than hurricane.

And in this particular case you are unprotected. Run!
Just an advice.

Posted by: Enki Sep 11, 2008, 04:05 PM

Houston, Houston the 'Lord' is Coming!

Hurricane Ike Aims at Houston; Evacuations Called (Update4)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=ahOZo8NH9e20&refer=us

By Brian K. Sullivan

Sept. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Hurricane Ike tripled in size in the central Gulf of Mexico on a weekend collision course with the 5.6 million residents of the Houston area. Traffic jammed highways as Texas coastal communities evacuated.

Posted by: Enki Sep 11, 2008, 04:30 PM

Magic words "Hurricane Ike's gargantuan size" appearing in press:

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Associated Press
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i2HlXXL9ikI5aJLjjw9dhMlF2BwwD934QRS80

By SETH BORENSTEIN

Hurricane Ike's gargantuan size — not its strength — will likely push an extra large storm surge inland in a region already prone to it, experts said Thursday.

Ike's giant girth means more water piling up on Texas and Louisiana coastal areas for a longer time, topped with bigger waves.


You see...

Posted by: Enki Sep 11, 2008, 04:34 PM

What goes on Kids?

Posted by: code buttons Sep 11, 2008, 09:55 PM

QUOTE(Enki @ Sep 11, 2008, 04:34 PM) *

What goes on Kids?

To Enki and Ike: Eat my shorts!

Posted by: Enki Sep 12, 2008, 01:30 AM

QUOTE(code buttons @ Sep 11, 2008, 09:55 PM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Sep 11, 2008, 04:34 PM) *

What goes on Kids?

To Enki and Ike: Eat my shorts!


Possibly this all is Ms. Calypso.

Who gives names to hurricanes: is it randomly selected by a Computer (or by computer from a list) or Human factor is crucial in name selection? In my very humble opinion it is an interesting and important question.

Houston, Houston do you hear me? tongue.gif

Posted by: Enki Sep 12, 2008, 02:54 AM

But if to be serious Code, I think that there is something strange in all this, is not it?

Posted by: code buttons Sep 12, 2008, 05:09 PM

QUOTE(Enki @ Sep 12, 2008, 02:54 AM) *

But if to be serious Code, I think that there is something strange in all this, is not it?

8:16 PM. Tree branches knocking at my windows, wind howling right outside my doorstep. The end is near! Will report back when this is over... maybe!

Posted by: Enki Sep 12, 2008, 07:41 PM

QUOTE(code buttons @ Sep 12, 2008, 05:09 PM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Sep 12, 2008, 02:54 AM) *

But if to be serious Code, I think that there is something strange in all this, is not it?

8:16 PM. Tree branches knocking at my windows, wind howling right outside my doorstep. The end is near! Will report back when this is over... maybe!


Ohhh Calypso, maybe the winds should be stopped near Houston?

Houston, Houston do you hear me?

Code you are At the Center of The Storm. tongue.gif Maybe you shall open the door and invite Mr. Ike to drink a cup of tea? You know, He can open the door himself, seems He has a great experience in opening doors.

Posted by: Enki Sep 13, 2008, 04:15 AM

Category 2 is not so tough, you see Ms. Calypso is merciful, yet.

Posted by: Enki Sep 13, 2008, 05:49 AM

Houston, Houston do you hear me?

Code how was the rendezvous with Ms. Calypso?

Posted by: Enki Sep 15, 2008, 02:05 AM

Code are you OK?

Posted by: code buttons Sep 15, 2008, 10:43 AM

QUOTE(Enki @ Sep 15, 2008, 02:05 AM) *

Code are you OK?

Yes, thank you. But running low on laptop battery. Glad to see birds flying around again. almost entire city without power. Gas and ice is also very scarce. Neighborhood undrivable as giant trees and water ponds obstruct streets and major freeway frontage roads. We'll be ok, though. Comunities are coming together like never before.

Posted by: Enki Sep 15, 2008, 12:36 PM

QUOTE(code buttons @ Sep 15, 2008, 10:43 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Sep 15, 2008, 02:05 AM) *

Code are you OK?

Yes, thank you. But running low on laptop battery. Glad to see birds flying around again. almost entire city without power. Gas and ice is also very scarce. Neighborhood undrivable as giant trees and water ponds obstruct streets and major freeway frontage roads. We'll be ok, though. Comunities are coming together like never before.


The Puritans stand shoulder to shoulder to amend the Houston! Excellent.
God bless America!
Wish you all the bests.

And let the force stay with you.
I am very happy that you are OK.

Posted by: Enki Sep 17, 2008, 03:46 AM

From Ike to AIG.

You see investing into AIG may save USA. The idea is flying in the Air.
It is a sign Kids, it is a sign. Think about that. laugh.gif

As you can note the Hurricane Ike eventually percolated to Economy: 'Thank God, they bailed out AIG' http://edition.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/09/17/lkl.suze.orman/index.html

(CNN) -- The Federal Reserve Board announced an $85 billion plan Tuesday to bail out troubled insurance giant American International Group Inc.

Posted by: Enki Sep 18, 2008, 07:51 AM

What will be the next? Interesting is not it?

Posted by: code buttons Sep 18, 2008, 08:37 AM

QUOTE(Enki @ Sep 18, 2008, 07:51 AM) *

What will be the next? Interesting is not it?

I think this marks the end of America's argument for free-market capitalims. The socialists in France and China and everywhere must be secretly laughing as the US can no longer brag about how totally unregulated capitalims is king. I mean, if Uncle Sam can't keep his fingers off of a private business such as this insurance company, then the fundamentals of US-style capitalims must be on shaky ground. I realize that Washington made this move out of desperation in a last ditch effort to keep luqidity and confidence greasing the wheels of the global economy. But the price they're going to pay in terms of credibility in their system aroung the world is in measures still unknown.

Posted by: Enki Sep 18, 2008, 09:07 AM

QUOTE(code buttons @ Sep 18, 2008, 08:37 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Sep 18, 2008, 07:51 AM) *

What will be the next? Interesting is not it?

I think this marks the end of America's argument for free-market capitalims. The socialists in France and China and everywhere must be secretly laughing as the US can no longer brag about how totally unregulated capitalims is king. I mean, if Uncle Sam can't keep his fingers off of a private business such as this insurance company, then the fundamentals of US-style capitalims must be on shaky ground. I realize that Washington made this move out of desperation in a last ditch effort to keep luqidity and confidence greasing the wheels of the global economy. But the price they're going to pay in terms of credibility in their system aroung the world is in measures still unknown.


Certainly they shall laugh.

Posted by: Enki Sep 18, 2008, 09:55 PM

Very strange, nobody wants to surrender... Hmmm.
Maybe to look over the asteroids traffic schedule?
Who gives names to asteroids? tongue.gif

Posted by: Enki Sep 20, 2008, 12:31 PM

You see, Hurricane Ike helped to uncover 'Charlotte'. tongue.gif

You see it is a sign. A siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiign Kids! Read by capital letters SIGN. tongue.gif

QUOTE
Ike helps uncover mystery vessel on Ala. coast
Fri Sep 19, 7:45 PM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080919/ap_on_re_us/ike_mystery_ship;_ylt=Av1imbzFVpQSuAbTvgc4ObCs0NUE

After examining photos of the wreck post-Ike, Museum of Mobile marine archaeologist Shea McLean agreed it is likely the Monticello, which ran aground in 1862 after sailing from Havana, according to Navy records.


I think the boat should be transported to Charlottesville for museum.

Monticello (pronounced [mɒntəˈtʃɛloʊ]), located near Charlottesville, Virginia, was the estate of Thomas Jefferson, the principal author of the United States Declaration of Independence, the third President of the United States, and founder of the University of Virginia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monticello
rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Enki Sep 29, 2008, 10:26 AM

I heard US economy undergoes serious slide down.
Fluctuations are so common in chaotic systems.
Fluctuations are the realm of Upper Beings.
Is no it?

Posted by: Joesus Sep 29, 2008, 10:30 AM

QUOTE(Enki @ Sep 29, 2008, 06:26 PM) *

Fluctuations are the realm of Upper Beings.
Is no it?

Correct not you are...

Posted by: Enki Sep 29, 2008, 10:51 AM

QUOTE(Joesus @ Sep 29, 2008, 10:30 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Sep 29, 2008, 06:26 PM) *

Fluctuations are the realm of Upper Beings.
Is no it?

Correct not you are...


I guess correct am I !

Posted by: Enki Sep 29, 2008, 11:15 PM

It is hard to ignore the Book of Secrets for such a long period of time.

Posted by: Enki Sep 30, 2008, 04:56 AM

Fluctuations in time and space...

Back to the future!


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Posted by: Enki Sep 30, 2008, 05:40 AM

You see Jo., fluctuations are interesting realm.


http://edition.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS/09/30/us.bailout.deal.markets/index.html

Stock futures pointed to gains early Tuesday, after a record 777-point laugh.gif drop in the Dow Jones industrial average Monday that marked the worst percentage drop for stocks since the 1987 crash.

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Peter Cardillo, chief market economist at Avalon laugh.gif Partners, said he was not overly encouraged by the pickup in futures in the early going, although he said he expected U.S. markets to show a modest gain at the start.

I guess correct was I ...

Posted by: Enki Oct 06, 2008, 03:38 AM

Fluctuations are continuing to trigger the entire reality. Interesting is not it?

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS/10/06/stock.markets/index.html

(CNN) -- The major markets of Europe and Asia were sharply lower on Monday as traders looked past America's bank bailout bill and focused on Europe's growing financial crisis.

The most influential European markets -- London's FTSE 100, the CAC 40 in Paris and the XETRA DAX in Frankfurt -- were off about 3 to 6 percent in the first half of the trading day.

Russia's RTS index fared worse, pushing its losses into double-digit territory. A midday (9 a.m. GMT), the index was down more than 12 percent. The index lost 9 percent of its value in the first 30 minutes of the trading day.

The slump followed a weekend in which Germany's private financial sector promised to put up an additional €15 billion, in addition to the €35 billion already pledged, to help shore up Hypo Real Estate bank, the nation's Finance Ministry said Sunday.

Posted by: Enki Oct 06, 2008, 03:47 AM

So, coming back to Michael Moore's logic one should conclude that ignoring the will of the Lord or Lords may trigger extremely serious consequences for the Entire Planet.

Maybe some gentlemen already ignored something? I am just theorizing on the subject.

Posted by: Rick Oct 06, 2008, 08:03 AM

MarketWatch for realtime stock and commodities updates:

http://www.marketwatch.com/

The bloodbath on Wall Street continues. There's no supernatural influence here. It's just the Repugligan chickens coming home to roost. 30 years of Reaganomical deregulation did the trick: then greed took over as the foxes ate the hens.

Posted by: Enki Oct 06, 2008, 08:35 AM

QUOTE(Rick @ Oct 06, 2008, 08:03 AM) *
There's no supernatural influence here.


Of course, only natural. Natural, natural and once again natural.

Posted by: Enki Oct 06, 2008, 08:41 AM

Attached ImageBtw, here is picture from the site you provided right now, I made Print Screen and cut a part for history. You know fluctuations in motion. Do you like Pumpkin Juice Rick?

As I said Natural, Natural and only Natural.

Posted by: Enki Oct 06, 2008, 08:57 AM

So, it looks like (certainly in my imagination only) that one of the Cosmic Consciousnesses is extremely furious and withdraws His/Her Grace. Interested parties should come to certain conclusions, that is just an humble opinion of mine.

Posted by: Enki Oct 06, 2008, 08:19 PM

2 hours, 27 minutes ago
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS/10/06/stock.markets/index.html
Asia, Pacific markets tumble in opening

(CNN) -- Japan's Nikkei dropped more than 5 percent, falling below the 10,000 mark in early trading Tuesday, as Asian and Pacific markets responded to Wall Street's drop below the same mark on Monday.

The Korea Exchange fell more than 2 percent, and the Australian Securities Exchange dropped nearly 3 percent.

In the United States, the Dow Jones industrials plunged by as much as 800 points, falling below 10,000 for the first time since October 2004.

The most influential European markets also suffered big losses, as the credit crisis tightened its grip on banks and other financial institutions. London's FTSE 100 ended down 7.9 percent, the biggest one-day fall since 1987; the CAC 40 in Paris skidded 9 percent, and the XETRA DAX in Frankfurt tumbled 7.1 percent.

The declines were led by the banking industry, with the mining and oil sectors also suffering.

Russia's RTS index fared worse, shutting down after falling more than 20 percent. The index lost 9 percent of its value in the first 30 minutes of the trading day. Video

Posted by: Enki Oct 06, 2008, 08:39 PM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD VATICAN! Bingo!

Please note that the article below is written by Mr. Owen. laugh.gif

QUOTE
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article4893190.ece

by Richard Owen in Rome

Pope Benedict XVI today said that the global credit crisis shows that the world's financial systems are "built on sand" and that only the works of God have "solid reality".

Opening a Synod of Bishops in the Vatican the Pope referred to a passage from St Matthew's Gospel on false prophets, saying ''He who builds only on visible and tangible things like success, career and money builds the house of his life on sand''.

He added: ''We are now seeing, in the collapse of major banks, that money vanishes, it is nothing. All these things that appear to be real are in fact secondary. Only God's words are a solid reality''.


So... smile.gif My dear inhabitants of this wonderful planet, as you see we have very interesting situation.

The realm of fluctuations is the realm of Supper Being(s).

So, correct was I.

Posted by: Enki Oct 07, 2008, 12:12 AM

As you see the Servant of the Servants of the Lord understood that something interesting goes on. I think the fact that Joseph understood something and openly speaks about that signals something as well.

Posted by: Enki Oct 07, 2008, 12:36 AM

And I want to Summarize this topic started by Michael Moore.

1. The mosaic of events heralds something. In the old times Jewish people collected from the events of their nation a mosaic, which in their opinion, is heralding something throughout thousand years and transferred the message observable in that mosaic for future generations. Later on in Rome a part of that mosaic was called Bible. The Bible heralds that there is some certain image observable in that mosaic (some see it some not).

2. For 2000 years people do not add new elements to that mosaic, though Jews do add for their internal records (as well as some other parties collect for their own records).

3. Gnostics see terrible face in that mosaic and say that there is something better at the other side of the mosaic like on the other side of a moon, on other side of a coin.
Some say that we do see a part of the image and that is why sometimes we trace a monster instead of Mona Lisa, and some even see Darth Vader's face.

4. Some say that people see what they want to see like in the Mirror at Hogwarts where Harry Potter could note one thing in the Mirror and his friend another, and then finally Harry noted the Philosophic Stone in that Mirror, which Mirrored (I mean the stone) into his reality and appeared in his pocket. Alice could see something else on the other side of the Mirror etc...

5. So what Enki sees in that Mosaic of Mirror pieces? Question of questions.

Will be back in a month.

PS: Rick I did not forget about the Golden a. it is really a great challenge.

Posted by: Enki Oct 23, 2008, 08:24 PM

I just for few minutes to forum. Hope all are well here.

As one can see the fluctuations continue and continue. Just a remark.

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan told Congress on Thursday he is "shocked" at the breakdown in US credit markets and said he was "partially" wrong to resist regulation of some securities.

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And as I see some idiots in England started anti-God campaign:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/3229106/Prof-Richard-Dawkins-drives-support-for-Londons-first-atheist-bus-advert.html

I wonder how Professor Richard Dawkins does not fear that the one whom he continues to call delusion shall not somehow press Shift Delete button in a specific way to demonstrate to admired readers of Dawkins's 'academic' works that the Professor underestimated the Great Old Delusion's practical capabilities laugh.gif . And I really wonder that the authorities in England giving Green line to such an idiot campaign does not understand that if He/She exist, then definitely will counter react, somehow.

Elisabeth, Enki says that something is definitely wrong and not wise in your Kingdom. Just an opinion.

I wonder why people are apt to make Him/Her angry? Soviet Union made such an attempt; where is the Soviet Union? It disappeared. So is it wise to make Him/Her so angry if you are not 100% sure whether He/She exists or not? Just a simple question?
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Rick, the Universe is progressing with Golden a. dilemma.

Posted by: Enki Oct 24, 2008, 05:04 PM

HA! laugh.gif Now he shifted from God to Harry Potter, how hilarious, he decided to fight against DMT-elves world of Hogwarts (possibly Professor understood that fighting against Great Old Delusion so actively can be too dangerous, one day Professor Dawkins shall find gateway to interesting knowledge and shall write a book which will surprise all as science covers many secrets and one day they will be exposed; science is the key to the most interesting knowledge, but the key needs proper lock to be opened. Dawkins values The Key, that is correct, but he also should point at the lock The Key should and can open, Dawkins does not point at The Lock, hope one day he will; I am sure that existence of very interesting things can be proved scientifically ):

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Harry Potter fails to cast spell over Professor Richard Dawkins

'Professor Richard Dawkins plans to find out if stories like Harry Potter have a "pernicious" effect on children'

1:23AM
BST 25 Oct 2008

Harry Potter has become the latest target for Professor Richard Dawkins who is planning to find out whether tales of witchdraft and wizardy have a negative effect on children.

The prominent atheist is stepping down from his post at Oxford University to write a book aimed at youngsters in which he will warn them against believing in "anti-scientific" fairytales.

Prof Hawkins said: "The book I write next year will be a children's book on how to think about the world, science thinking contrasted with mythical thinking.

"I haven't read Harry Potter, I have read Pullman who is the other leading children's author that one might mention and I love his books. I don't know what to think about magic and fairy tales."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/3255972/Harry-Potter-fails-to-cast-spell-over-Professor-Richard-Dawkins.html

Posted by: Enki Oct 24, 2008, 05:12 PM

Saturday, 25 October 2008

Howard Jacobson: So God 'probably' doesn't exist. Don't these atheists have any conviction?

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/howard-jacobson/howard-jacobson-so-god-probably-doesnt-exist-dont-these-atheists-have-any-conviction-972794.html


Posted by: Rick Oct 25, 2008, 03:18 PM

Agnostics are committed to not being sure. Harry Houdini tried to prove the existence of "interesting" things, but ended up exposing frauds instead.

Posted by: Enki Oct 26, 2008, 06:09 AM

Really? I think LHC staff is not of the same opinion about miracular coincidences. You have rather short memory Rick for an 'atheist' btw.

Posted by: Enki Oct 26, 2008, 09:08 PM

Roman Catholic Church made extremely serious conceptual step forward in the history of Mankind:

QUOTE
2008-10-26
Permalink: http://www.zenit.org/article-24073?l=english
Pope: Science Plus Faith Will Get to God's Message

Notes Two Facets Needed for a Good Bible Reading

VATICAN CITY, OCT. 26, 2008 (Zenit.org).- Both scientific exegesis and a prayerful reading of the Bible are necessary to get to the message God wants to give today through Scripture, says Benedict XVI.

The Pope affirmed this today before praying the midday Angelus with crowds gathered in St. Peter's Square. He had just concluded the world Synod of Bishops on the Word of God in the life and mission of the Church.

"Every synodal assembly is a strong experience of ecclesial communion, but this one even more so because at the center of the attention was placed that which enlightens and guides the Church: the Word of God, which is Christ in person," the Holy Father said.

The Pontiff noted that one aspect that had been considered was the relationship between the Word and words, "that is, between the Divine Word, and the Scripture that expresses it."

Citing the Second Vatican Council, Benedict XVI affirmed that "a good biblical exegesis requires both the historical-critical method and the theological one, because sacred Scripture is the Word of God in human words."

This implies that every text should be read keeping in mind the unity of all Scripture, the living tradition of the Church and the light of faith," he added. "If it is true that the Bible is also a literary work, even more, the great code of universal culture, it is also true that it should not be robbed of its divine element, but rather should be read in the same Spirit in which it was written.

"Scientific exegesis and lectio divina are, therefore, both necessary and complementary for seeking, through the literal meaning, the spiritual one, which God wants to communicate to us today."

Posted by: Rick Oct 27, 2008, 02:30 PM

Did you ever read Leviticus? Is that part of the unity of scripture?

Posted by: Enki Oct 28, 2008, 04:45 PM

QUOTE(Rick @ Oct 27, 2008, 02:30 PM) *

Did you ever read Leviticus? Is that part of the unity of scripture?


The book represents edited records (presupposing that the editing itself underwent under some sort of inspiration) of interrelation of Jewish people with a Being (or Beings) that nation been identifying as God. Certainly from promotional point of view, from point of view of the present times the editor or editor had to discard that segment as too controversial depicting some sort of strange justice and behaviors and rules which may rise some doubts about their authenticity in matters of springing from God (e.g. God of the New Testament). Mark Twain, if I am not mistaken, was comparing the God of Old and New Testaments with Mr. Hyde and Dr. Jekyll the two personages invented by the owner of the one of the copies of the Book of Paternosters (owned also my Mr. John Dee) by Robert Louis Stevenson (Btw Rick, the words Hyde and Jekyll contain within very great enigmatic secret, I guess, e.g. as the work Sherlock does).

But as the editor or editors decided to preserve the records of communication in the records of the Bible it means that they really feared to discard it, or had some unknown reasons, and if the Providence mastered in a way to preserve those texts in the Bible it means that the texts by themselves also convey some sort of message, some sort of knowledge.

So, science and religion together one day shall find the key to that strange enigma. The key idea is that the religion should not fear that the God be studied scientifically. The study may reveal something extremely fantastic, something that will fully resolve all the disharmony between science and religion. Initial data certainly will be terribly shocking as it may turn so that terrestrials, ultra terrestrials, extra terrestrials, celestials, Narnia and Middlearth, Matrix, Heavens and Hell and other interesting places and personages do exist. But nonetheless, if faith is firm the true understanding of things, which may turn to be unknown even to the Demons & Angels, in my opinion can be revealed to patient men. In view of that Vatican adapted revolutionary approach of analyzing God’s messages. Let us see to what they shall arrive. The approach in principle is correct. The Implementors are the most sensitive option, generally in human history mankind always had problems with implementation of good ideas.

Btw, if McCain wins, then will you consider that as a miracle? I am just interested. tongue.gif

Posted by: Rick Oct 29, 2008, 10:39 AM

QUOTE(Enki @ Oct 28, 2008, 05:45 PM) *
Btw, if McCain wins, then will you consider that as a miracle? I am just interested. tongue.gif

Hell, no. That would be proof of cheating, which is already underway. There is evidence of election fraud in Florida with voting machines switching votes from Obama to McCaine. Also, some Repugligan campaign workers are showing up at Democrat's houses to collect absentee ballots and then destroying them. They will get jail time if they are apprehended and convicted.

Read more about the continuing election fraud:

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/10/29-0

Posted by: Enki Oct 29, 2008, 11:32 PM

QUOTE(Rick @ Oct 29, 2008, 10:39 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Oct 28, 2008, 05:45 PM) *
Btw, if McCain wins, then will you consider that as a miracle? I am just interested. tongue.gif

Hell, no. That would be proof of cheating, which is already underway. There is evidence of election fraud in Florida with voting machines switching votes from Obama to McCaine. Also, some Repugligan campaign workers are showing up at Democrat's houses to collect absentee ballots and then destroying them. They will get jail time if they are apprehended and convicted.

Read more about the continuing election fraud:

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/10/29-0


So you should call observers from Europe and Freedom House to monitor elections. laugh.gif
I am sure that they will call the US elections overall democratic and the minor breaches not affecting the electoral results as they did in many other countries.

Then for long period of time American people shall protest against cheated elections applying to various international institutions looking for justice as many, many, many other nations of the world do in hope to regain freedom and democracy. How hilarious indeed.

Posted by: Enki Oct 29, 2008, 11:44 PM

Interesting outcome do envisage I.

Posted by: trojan_libido Oct 30, 2008, 12:05 AM

Topic Title: "Proof that there is a God in heaven"
Actual Topic: No idea...

Posted by: Enki Oct 30, 2008, 01:37 AM

QUOTE(trojan_libido @ Oct 30, 2008, 12:05 AM) *

Topic Title: "Proof that there is a God in heaven"
Actual Topic: No idea...


Trojan we are just talking, can we talk without even an idea??? Do you dislike my positive comments towards Vatican?

Btw, have you been in British Museum recently? I heard there was an interesting exhibition over Emperor Hadrian. I watched online comments of Director McGregor concerning the exhibition. Coincidentally the exhibition coincided with the announced projected movie Memories of Hadrian with Daniel Craig staring. I wonder how productive Mr. Craig is, so many movies, he does not get tired, I wonder, such a difficult role together with Mr. Ewan McGregor in I, Lucifer movie, while Mr. Ewan McGregor is very busy too, his role in the Angels & Demons looks like such a responsible one, imitate the Ewan Almighty should be so funny, probably.

Posted by: Enki Oct 30, 2008, 02:21 AM

Do you want the topic to be closed Trojan?

Posted by: trojan_libido Oct 30, 2008, 04:48 AM

I just wish I could follow the thread Enki! I don't generally respond to your posts, because a) I don't know whether you're joking or serious, and cool.gif because the responses have usually drifted so far from the topic that I'd only be helping keep it off track by a response.

I don't wish any thread to be permanently closed.

Posted by: Enki Oct 30, 2008, 06:34 AM

QUOTE(trojan_libido @ Oct 30, 2008, 04:48 AM) *

I just wish I could follow the thread Enki! I don't generally respond to your posts, because a) I don't know whether you're joking or serious, and cool.gif because the responses have usually drifted so far from the topic that I'd only be helping keep it off track by a response.

I don't wish any thread to be permanently closed.


Really?! Thank you. So let me continue my analysis of Moore's idea.
Btw, I always wonder how people do not consider me seriously...

Dear Trojan, well, now let us discard jokes and speak very seriously about something that requires very serious scientific investigation in my opinion.

Please note that I would never write about this if not the feeling that the entire human civilization may undergo very significant crisis. And I feel that sustaining the civilization without serious global changes becomes extremely difficult task. That is why I write about that. And all interested parties should consider this carefully as I feel that something very strange goes on.

Exclusively for you from the Book of Secrets:
//US elections in retrospective of world events, linguistic fluctuations and some traces of existence of the Great Old Democrat & Co. (or Great Old Delusion of Prof. Dawkins).//

Short Preface for Trojan:
As far as you know in old Summer there was such an epic poem, or something like that, called
Enki and World Order. And like the Old Organon of Mr. Aris'Tot'El was replaced by New Organon of Sir Fr'Enci's B'Econ so I guess it is time to talk about new epic poem called
Enki & New World Order. Below please consider some elements.

Please consider some ruminations of mine clearly depicting in language fluctuations existence of Entity exhibiting some interesting regularities (identifying signatures, keys), which incline to make a hypothesis that some sort of very specific Intelligent Being or even Beings do really exist on our planet.

Special Note: Children, reading this remember that even if Matrix exist the ice-cream is steal tasty. Ya!

1. US elections in the context of the Enki & New World Order

One side we have Mr. John McCain / Jon McKein, Jon MckEin, Jon McEnki/ on the other side we have Mr. Barack Hussein Obama a guy with two interesting names so well known to all Americans names: Hussein and Obama (just one letter fluctuation), but the third name is interesting as well: Barack /Barak/ and now read the transcription vise-versa Karab... /Barak/, maybe it means something in true as well (e.g. see explanation below in point # 2), and besides that the boy is from Hawaii (E+howaii) island, and springs from Kenya/kEnia, kEnki/, his residence is in Knewood/kEnwood, Enkwood/, Illinois /9ll nois(e), i – 9th letter of English alphabet/. Can you imagine the range of the panic in the Bones & Skulls if this all is not a coincidence? Even the symbol & on the keyboard goes under number 7, seven in Hebrew sounds SHIVA, and who is SHIVA is well know in the country called INDIA, where people well know Mr. INDRA, who has a nice elephant called Airavata known in Thai as ERAWAN, which hilariously sounds alike the name of capital of Armenia EREVAN (YEREVAN) which is located near the Biblical mountain ARARAT (Airavata) which prior to the unfortunate events started at night of Shakespeare's birthday 24 April 1915, was surrounded by the first Christian nation of this world (now not), which primary church is located on Ararat valley in city of Echmiadzin where on Altar of God in the middle of triangle heralding Trinity (or Pyramid) the name of God with Capital Letter E is inscribed. And I heard that in Armenian language the letter E goes under number 7. So approaching to the second point of my analysis what Karab... /Barak/ can mean from point of view of old Masonic magic of 'energy' redirection? Let us see.

2. On 2 November 2008 the world powers shall decide in Moscow the destiny of disputed KarabAKH /Barak/ region (maybe this is the key to the Obama's name) (which Armenians claim to liberated by them) and two days later on 4 November the destiny of the United States shall be resolved. So prior to the elections in US all Armenians in Armenia shall follow news from Moscow activating in their mind the word KarabAKH /Barak/, and as actually all surnames of Armenians contain root YAN, then from point of view of the Consciousness Singularity in some way that old nation have to somehow in cybernetic way influence the elections process in US and some sort of very strange magic should be conducted. Interesting is not it? And if to suppose that the owner of the capital letter E over the Echmiazdin's Cathedral altar do really exist (e.g. like Extra Super-Puper DMT elf /or even something more interesting/) whose analogs we been so interestingly discussing in the Magic Mushrooms section), then in this interesting way He/She maybe, tries to tell something to the all parties of the game who forgot who in true is the Lord of this World. Or maybe something else. We can only guess. In anyway that requires some sort of research.

3. You know when I look at the chain of this strange coincidences I start to think about coming of the true New World Order (the one nobody ever could imagine to come, and I guess only people from Brainmeta community can properly percept the depth of that event, e.g. Jo. already showed some signs of understanding of the process). Hope people from Yankee’s /yankEee, yanEnkee/ country can understand what really stands behind that enigma. Besides please note that the word Armenia and word America are specifically alike in a way I described the similarity of words Iran, Iraq, India and Indra in the Magic Mushrooms section. Very interesting cybernetic phenomena I should say, very interesting.

4. And here please consider an interesting passage from recollections of Ms. Howe, please pay special attention at how she describes how the words of the well known song came to her brain, I think Brainmeta community should pay special attention to that interesting historic phenomena (read below) which definitely will help to further investigations over the Consciousness Singularity Concept as well as help to understand weather Cosmic Consciousnesses do exist or not.

Words: Julia W. Howe (Ehowaii) http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/b/h/bhymnotr.htm
Music: John Brown (John)

"I awoke in the grey of the morning, and as I lay waiting for dawn, the long lines of the desired poem began to entwine themselves in my mind, and I said to myself, “I must get up and write these verses, lest I fall asleep and forget them!” So I sprang out of bed and in the dimness found an old stump of a pen, which I remembered using the day before. I scrawled the verses almost without looking at the paper."

Empire is marching on. wink.gif (I am joking)

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

I have seen Him in the watch fires of a hundred circling camps
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps;
His day is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His day is marching on.

I have read a fiery Gospel writ in burnished rows of steel;
“As ye deal with My contemners, so with you My grace shall deal”;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heel,
Since God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Since God is marching on.

He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment seat;
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet;
Our God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:
As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free;
[originally …let us die to make men free]
While God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! While God is marching on.

He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,
He is wisdom to the mighty, He is honor to the brave;
So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of wrong His slave,
Our God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.

I think the subject requires very serious scientific investigation.
_________________________________

The Zeitgeist movie was a serious challenge, but I think not such a great one for the Wise Lord, is not it?

Matrix Reloaded. wink.gif

Posted by: code buttons Oct 30, 2008, 06:59 AM

QUOTE(Enki @ Oct 30, 2008, 06:34 AM) *

Btw, I always wonder how people do not consider me seriously...

Foolish is the man who do not take you seriously, Enki. Don't think for a moment you are being under-estimated; at least not from this corner of the world.

Posted by: Enki Oct 30, 2008, 07:18 AM

QUOTE(code buttons @ Oct 30, 2008, 06:59 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Oct 30, 2008, 06:34 AM) *

Btw, I always wonder how people do not consider me seriously...

Foolish is the man who do not take you seriously, Enki. Don't think for a moment you are being under-estimated; at least not from this corner of the world.


Thank you very much Code!

Posted by: trojan_libido Oct 30, 2008, 08:21 AM

QUOTE(Enki)
Mr. John McCain / Jon McKein, Jon MckEin, Jon McEnki/
See, this is where I can't take you seriously. What you're doing is playing word games, and any actual enlightenment is obscured by your desire to play them. The same type where you get a word 'LAWN' then in a few steps changing one letter at a time, get to 'HAIL' or similar: LAWN, PAWN, PAIN, PAIL, HAIL

What relevance does it have?

If I take you seriously then how can I consolidate what you're saying? It seems you're stating that somehow this 'word matrix' you keep using and promoting is predicting a new world order... I can't take that leap!

I can understand the etymology of words to be interesting, looking backwards at the origins yields a wealth of knowledge on how a word got its pronounciation and meaning. Going forwards it just becomes more and more diluted.

Language is organic, and what a word once was is often not what it is now. Take the word Gay, used to be a happy word, then homosexual, todays youth are using for something generic that you don't want to do. Going forwards in todays world does not shed much light on anything.

Reality may well be made up of physical and non-physical language, and I suppose if it were it could be described as a word-matrix. But why should your own Username: Enki hold such a prominent position in this matrix? You keep morphing words to suit it. Explain please!

The new world order is always coming Enki, a bit like tomorrow. At the same time, its always been here too.

Posted by: Rick Oct 30, 2008, 09:16 AM

QUOTE(trojan_libido @ Oct 30, 2008, 01:05 AM) *

Topic Title: "Proof that there is a God in heaven"
Actual Topic: No idea...

Actually, the topic is political. Michael Moore, a very political film maker, suggests that the delay of the Repugligan national convention caused by Hurricane Gustav might be proof that there is a god in some mythical sky place. As we all know, Michael is an atheist and there exist no gods, so his suggestion is purely rhetorical. Hence, all political rhetoric under this topic is in bounds. Case closed, topic open.

Posted by: Enki Oct 30, 2008, 09:25 AM

QUOTE(trojan_libido @ Oct 30, 2008, 08:21 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki)
Mr. John McCain / Jon McKein, Jon MckEin, Jon McEnki/
See, this is where I can't take you seriously. What you're doing is playing word games, and any actual enlightenment is obscured by your desire to play them. The same type where you get a word 'LAWN' then in a few steps changing one letter at a time, get to 'HAIL' or similar: LAWN, PAWN, PAIN, PAIL, HAIL

What relevance does it have?

If I take you seriously then how can I consolidate what you're saying? It seems you're stating that somehow this 'word matrix' you keep using and promoting is predicting a new world order... I can't take that leap!

I can understand the etymology of words to be interesting, looking backwards at the origins yields a wealth of knowledge on how a word got its pronounciation and meaning. Going forwards it just becomes more and more diluted.

Language is organic, and what a word once was is often not what it is now. Take the word Gay, used to be a happy word, then homosexual, todays youth are using for something generic that you don't want to do. Going forwards in todays world does not shed much light on anything.

Reality may well be made up of physical and non-physical language, and I suppose if it were it could be described as a word-matrix. But why should your own Username: Enki hold such a prominent position in this matrix? You keep morphing words to suit it. Explain please!

The new world order is always coming Enki, a bit like tomorrow. At the same time, its always been here too.


I wrote about that once. Let me repeat with additions.

In telepathic systems of communications, if such exist, the Visual Patterns (and transpositions of their elements, which brain generally makes at subconscious level) and Sound Patterns should be much more important than meanings. There where Patterns do match, some information should percolate from register A to register B (from Person A to Person B ), some sort of IP pinging.

In that global network of registers some Patterns and Some Sounds should be optional, leading, mastering, granting full access to all registers. If to suppose that in that cybernetic media some intelligent creatures do exist then their trafficking in that cyber space: from register A to register B : from one men to another men should pass via those Patterns, Doors, and each door should have some certain Transformational Key, Key that helps to Morph one Pattern into another. One Sound into another. The role of Magic Phrases in Harri Potter DMT World is directly related with the Sound Patters, I guess.

I brought interesting examples related with Indra and Osiris in the Magic Mushrooms section regarding the names of Countries as names of domains (each citizen knows his country name, so that provides some cybernetic unity among their brains), and I showed if if one assume minor fluctuations and transpositions of the Patterns elements the countries can be parted onto Clusters excellently fitting the Names of the well known Gods, but as I see you intentionally try to dump down the point. From today Lindsay's aggressive comments in my fairy tale section I resumed that some people in Canada and England dislike me very much. I should say that I knew that before, moreover I excellently well know what kind of game some gentlemen do play in England concerning the Golden Compass movie Project and the distant Jumping games from continent to continent. I understand the motivations very well. Do not make mistakes about that.

Things are changing Trojan, things are changing rapidly, very rapidly. New effects can come into existence which could not ever been noted before. Some gentlemen just do not want to note that. Such persistent discarding of my opinion is extremely negative thing. If I speak about things like that on public that means that the situation, in my opinion, is extremely specific.

I can bring many other examples. But there is not necessity in that. A Word is also a Words Matrix as it is comprised from Words having ONE LETTER LENGTH! So the same Words Plateau, I been talking back in 2004, forms in brain when human notice a Word. And wrongly written word being input into brain can conduct shift: brain reconstruction pushing consciousness to start to pass form one Plateau to a new one.

I just suppose that in Freemasonry each Grand Plateau (from my Words Matrixes concept) marks new level of world perception. With each level human being acquires not only new knowledge but something else.

Any other questions Trojan?

Posted by: Enki Oct 30, 2008, 09:51 AM

QUOTE(trojan_libido @ Oct 30, 2008, 08:21 AM) *

Reality may well be made up of physical and non-physical language, and I suppose if it were it could be described as a word-matrix. But why should your own Username: Enki hold such a prominent position in this matrix? You keep morphing words to suit it. Explain please!


As I mentioned, in the Magic Mushrooms section I brought examples related with names of Gods Indra and Osiris concerning several countries names, and as word Enki is the name of Sumerian God Enki, so if to follow the logic of the approach expressed, then it also should play some certain and dominant role, so I just brought examples concerning that name, so in this case it is not my username but the name of God Enki.

I do not keep morphing words to suit it I just apply very certain Algorithms and Approaches. I think my examples related with the Counties names: {Iran, Iraq, India} and {Israel, Syria, Russia, Asia (region), Egypt=Al'Masri}, so obvious that the application of certain algorithm of transformation is self evident and I do not keep morphing words to suit something, I just exhibit extremely obvious things.

Besides in all descriptions of DMT related phenomena things do morph into another things helping the tripper to wonder in the wonderland. So why the words cannot morph following some very certain algorithms helping some ladies and gentlemen to travel from one Dave to another Dave (Eddie Murphy, Meet Dave). tongue.gif

I can go further and bring terrific examples related with Tetragrammaton. But there is no real necessity in that.

Posted by: Enki Oct 30, 2008, 10:04 AM

QUOTE(Rick @ Oct 30, 2008, 09:16 AM) *
As we all know, Michael is an atheist and there exist no gods, so his suggestion is purely rhetorical.


Doctor! How you dare dear! Let us not play into Star Wars.

Posted by: Rick Oct 30, 2008, 10:21 AM

People are divided into two categories. Those who read meaning into randomness and those who don't. I enjoy viewing figures in clouds as much as anyone, but I don't take it seriously. It's just brain noise.

Posted by: Enki Oct 30, 2008, 10:51 AM

QUOTE(trojan_libido @ Oct 30, 2008, 08:21 AM) *

The new world order is always coming Enki, a bit like tomorrow. At the same time, its always been here too.


Trojan, dear, do not object. The New World Order I am talking about is not the one you are talking about.

I want to repeat that again that the abbreviation of the phrase New World Order reads
NWO and if you rotate the letter W clockwise you shall get NEO which is the name of the main character of the movie Matrix.

The transformation of the word Anderson | Inderson | Indra son | follows the logic of the same algorithm. In Hebrew one can put apostrophe instead of vowels and see things under quite new and interesting angle.

Look, e.g. your username is Trojan but slight modification gives the name Trajan which is the name of Emperor Trajan, and if we ever could know personally each other I could tell you how that transformation can be fitted into the logic of the Algorithm, and I can assure you that you would not object in that case, besides I could tell you what the Matrix in reality is and you would accept that it is surprisingly simple concept. But as I hardly will ever visit England in my life, I think you should get satisfied by these comments, I think they are quite sufficient as well.

At the same time that username can be mixed with the name of the well know city, well known horse, mixed with a computer virus and so associated with Computer Hackers. While the Matrix Movie can be linked with Snow Crush and thus with its personage the Enki - the archaic Linguistic Hacker according to the book's author. So, in some way your username is related with word Enki (supposedly the one who can be worshiped by Computer Hackers as their God if to follow logic of the Snow Crush). Now imagine that in true there are more links concerning the Emperor Trajan, from which you definitely will arrive to obvious idea that clusters do exist. So we have a cluster. Some sort of Brain meta forum cluster, let us call it Brain meta forum Pantheon. wink.gif

Who knows, maybe the clusters exist not only in space, but in time. But that is very sensitive subject and too fantastic for serious discussions, especially here.

I think you better not ask to me additional questions.

Posted by: Enki Oct 30, 2008, 10:56 AM

QUOTE(Rick @ Oct 30, 2008, 10:21 AM) *

People are divided into two categories. Those who read meaning into randomness and those who don't. I enjoy viewing figures in clouds as much as anyone, but I don't take it seriously. It's just brain noise.


The brain noise Rick is a very important thing. The field of noises and random phenomena covers very important secrets of this world I guess. Some say that it contains information about alpha and omega of this world.

Posted by: Rick Oct 30, 2008, 11:05 AM

What about tea leaves?

Posted by: Enki Oct 30, 2008, 11:28 AM

QUOTE(Rick @ Oct 30, 2008, 11:05 AM) *
What about tea leaves?


We can discuss the subject there but I got very tired today indeed, I am sorry.
It is endless topic by the way, you know...

Posted by: Rick Oct 30, 2008, 12:14 PM

Maybe I'll write a computer program to do tea leaf analysis. Hmmm.

Posted by: Enki Oct 30, 2008, 12:31 PM

QUOTE(Rick @ Oct 30, 2008, 12:14 PM) *

Maybe I'll write a computer program to do tea leaf analysis. Hmmm.


I think that the Upper and really Eternal Begins, if such really do exist, can rule in silence and they do not need common people to believe into them. It is common people should care to know something about the true reality, and if they are stupid enough to trust atheists, then hardly the Upper Beings, if such really do exist, shall care too much about them. I think a human being fundamentally restricts his mentality and imagination by dogmatic atheistic statements or abrupt acceptance of Gnostic idiotic outlook at the world only because it is cruel one.

Fanatics of all kinds: Muslim Fanatics, Christian Fanatics, Judaism's Fanatics, Hindu Fanatics, Masonic Fanatics, Buddhist Fanatics, Gnostic Fanatics, Communist Fanatics, Nazi Fanatics, Illuminati Fanatics, Atheistic Fanatics etc., all of them, when the matter of discussion approaches to the real scientific investigation of the Realm of Devine always incline to make Politically Motivated statements and bring along misleading irrational arguments persistently diverting any open scientific consideration of the subject. That is why the topic is so shaggy for so many centuries. They all do not permit the topic be normally studied openly and properly by free people. Till those idiots dominate over this planet it always will be difficult to discuss the subject openly and humans should always wait coming of those who always explain things clearly and properly and momentously so that the wave of conclave-ignorance and tyrany not to have time to suppress, grab and hide the knowledge for internal use of closed clans of interests thus leading mankind to stagnation and decay.

The merchants of light always come, they always tell, and will tell what they find important to tell in spite of all bastards of all spheres, because the Wisdom is great and its fruits are Proper and always help to sustain Civilization on the complex way of its development.

Posted by: Enki Oct 30, 2008, 10:21 PM

QUOTE(Dianah @ Oct 30, 2008, 04:31 PM) *

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The merchants of light always come, they always tell, and will tell what they find important to tell in spite of all bastards of all spheres, because the Wisdom is great and its fruits are Proper and always help to sustain Civilization on the complex way of its development.


Wise words…

Not many though…understand…but the words…the imaginings…must be voiced, for the voice ‘threads’ the subconscious song of being…does it not?


Ohhh Great! Dianah! You are back! Though you was not so far (Enki knows), excellent! Hope this time you shall not erase all you posts from future to past. I was missing you greatly. Thank you for the comments.

Yes indeed, few understand, as always dear fairy. Well, eeeee, the voice, eeee, maybe. The crew of the ship can understand voice commands of the captain too, everything helps...; 'One ship - one captain' system is important in unsteady waters, though democracy is nice too if crew members together with the captain discuss future waterway (some sort of marching-gliding democracy), the knowledgeable and wise passengers on the ship (e.g. from the college) can participate the discussions, but the passengers who want to rule the ship instead the captain e.g. via whispering, certainly are not welcomed, so from that point of view the voice aligns, helps the captain to regain oneself, find oneself, thus helping to see difference between the enchanting songs/voices of villain passengers from good passengers. One ship - one captain! Here Lord C. B. would add "One Navy - one Emperor". Anyway, there is a story to tell, it is like a fairy tale. wink.gif

Posted by: Enki Oct 30, 2008, 11:00 PM

Well, summarizing the topic started by Mr. Moore and looking back to the Hurricane, Economic Crisis comparable by losses with the Economic crisis of the WWI, and the expected elections in US I dare to suppose that some other Entities of not human kind, somehow, also participate in world affairs and the Science in harmony with religion has a lot of things to do to help mankind to step forward towards new horizons of understanding of the reality.

Let the Wisdom stay with you all,
It was nice to talk with all about
Cabbages and kings.

Posted by: trojan_libido Oct 31, 2008, 12:25 AM

QUOTE(Enki)
From today Lindsay's aggressive comments in my fairy tale section I resumed that some people in Canada and England dislike me very much
This is not true Enki. I like you, I like your posts, I just find it difficult to comprehend your selection of words and the links between them. But I can also see that my beliefs are also unorthodox, and are actually intwined with the key idea behind what you're proposing. Language is interconnected like a web, and filled with emotion like our conciousness. However I don't feel I'll ever grasp the concept, it seems far too loose to define and too grand in scope. Your ideas obviously came to you and solidified in some kind of epiphany, and I only hope you don't get too frustrated when people don't understand what you're saying.

Posted by: Phi Oct 31, 2008, 02:51 AM

I second that and wish cats could reply

Posted by: Enki Oct 31, 2008, 03:53 AM

QUOTE(trojan_libido @ Oct 31, 2008, 12:25 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki)
From today Lindsay's aggressive comments in my fairy tale section I resumed that some people in Canada and England dislike me very much
This is not true Enki. I like you, I like your posts, I just find it difficult to comprehend your selection of words and the links between them. But I can also see that my beliefs are also unorthodox, and are actually intwined with the key idea behind what you're proposing. Language is interconnected like a web, and filled with emotion like our conciousness. However I don't feel I'll ever grasp the concept, it seems far too loose to define and too grand in scope. Your ideas obviously came to you and solidified in some kind of epiphany, and I only hope you don't get too frustrated when people don't understand what you're saying.


I really hope so. Those who want to understand they understand, those who do not want others to understand mark it as non-understandable.

The entire hypothesis springs from two extremely simple suppositions:

1. Some kind of information can percolate from one person to another wirelessly, how technically it percolates it is not an option in this model. Human brain may not be able to decode it, but something flows, even if by shorcuts, it flows. So we just suppose that some subconscious data exchange exists, even with 10% accuracy nonetheless something flows around.

2. The random or non-random flow of information from one person to another can pass when some Patterns in brain : Visual, Sound, Sensitive patterns, do match one with another. Let me call them Triggering Keys of Data Percolation. E.g. X looks at Mona Lisa in Brazil, Y looks at Mona Lisa in France and at the same time, at that very moment Y start to think about a bicycle, then an idea similar to the bicycle triggers X's brain, e.g. X start to think about roads. If data percolated, then a detailed analysis may show that X and Y both have the same name, or that X and Y both like the same number so the Circle/Ring is closed and X and Y have bi-directional percolation line. So if Y is a homosexual then X can start to love boys too as feelings may percolate as well (this is a feedback to your example with word Gays).

If the Key Pattern uniting X and Y is powerful enough (or a group of meditating bastards somewhere in Orient keeps singing the same mantra looking at Mona Lisa, thus keeping some lines active) then X and Y along with other people who periodically look at Mona Lisa start to evolve into a Cluster worshiping the same idol or idols. E.g. we all start to love Coca-cola or start to warship David Beckham with his T-shirt with number 23 on it (or Mikel Jordan), or even warship him (and e.g. people from Manchester Society of Magic start to suck our 'energy' [I am joking] for their magic). When the Cluster grows into a huge agglomeration we start to think in the same way and start to construct Babylon Tower.
Now in this model try to replace Mona Lisa with Swastika. You see...

Now, if we can show that there are some certain Dominating Triggering Keys of Data Percolation in Languages, World Events etc, then it will provide additional arguments pro that we have the information percolation phenomena.

And there is an opinion that in that cybernetic space some Upper Beings exist, e.g. Super DMT elves known from stories told by those who practice Magic Mushrooms consuming.

If to go further we can suppose that if things like that exist, then it becomes a political issue as well.

I think I am expressing some ideas in very simple way Trojan. A child can understand, is not it? And all ideas are based on two very simple suppositions.

Now about theological applications: what Sins in that context are?

Sin generally is a bad behavior and if being practiced much brings something negative to a person and society (and as Church says to the soul as well). Now, from point of view of the above mentioned percolations the Patterns of bad behavior may percolate from one person to another wirelessly, e.g. aggression, greed, enviousness etc. But if you teach a person to contain Sin it is the same thing as containing the percolation of the Patterns of bad behavior in the entire net. So from that point of view Church is a fundamental institution, though at the same time it can play extremely negative role of enslavement as well. So wise Rulers who draft Architecture carcasses of modern societies must take into consideration all the aspects and periodically consult with wise consultants who know the Ineffable truths, so to take into consideration as many options as is possible. Only such societies stand for centuries and only such Empires stand firm.

Posted by: Enki Oct 31, 2008, 04:03 AM

I think further discussion of this topic can be conducted in the Tea Club Trojan if you wish.

So, possibly something stands behind the declaration of Mr. Moore, but hardly he will make a movie on that subject. tongue.gif

Posted by: Enki Oct 31, 2008, 07:30 AM

New news from England about adventures of Prof. Dawkins looks like he really abandoned his crusade against God and starts crusade against Harry Potter and Company. How interesting.

QUOTE
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/arts/31arts-THEGODDELUSI_BRF.html?ref=arts

The God Delusion Jr.? Dawkins Is Working on a Children’s Book

Compiled by Dave Itzkoff
Published: October 31, 2008

Having sufficiently inflamed the passions of his adult readers with “The God Delusion,” his treatise on rationalism and atheism, the evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, left, has said he is writing a book for children. In an interview with Britain’s Channel 4, Dr. Dawkins said he was working on a book that would explore children’s relationships with fairy tales and encourage them to think about the world scientifically rather than mythologically. “I would like to know whether there’s any evidence that bringing children up to believe in spells and wizards and magic wands and things turning into other things — it is unscientific, I think it’s antiscientific,” Dr. Dawkins, left, told More4 News. “Whether that has a pernicious effect, I don’t know.” No publisher or release date for the book has been announced.
More Articles in Arts » A version of this article appeared in print on October 31, 2008, on page C2 of the New York edition.

Posted by: Enki Nov 01, 2008, 12:54 PM

Now, if Harry Potter & Co do exist in reality, then they should prove to Prof. Dawkins somehow that they exist and Prof. Dawkins should herald to entire world that he made a great discovery, because if he prove to children that Harry Potter & Co is a fiction, then ... . On the other hand, by proving this to Prof. Dawkins and to the World, the Harry Potter & Co. will automatically prove that God exists as well. So we will arrive to a Paradox: wizards and witches by proving to Prof. Dawkins and mankind that they exist shall prove at the same time that God exists. How funny, is not it.

Checkmate!

Posted by: Enki Nov 01, 2008, 12:55 PM

Truly 21-th century is an interesting century.

Posted by: Enki Nov 01, 2008, 01:19 PM

A special elections related joke for Rick from me, you can use this doctor to accuse Republicans in ties with the Kremin and RasPutin:

Look, we all know that McCain was in KGB prison, and who knows what they have implanted there, now look whom he selected as vice-president (!): the Word Palin is a masked pattern of word Putin. Look if you consider letter a in word Palin and cut from its top a dash and paste it at letter l of the same word you will get word Putin. So there is just one Copy-Paste operator from Palin to Putin. So KGB already has a potential vice-president agent candidate. So they have chances to rule America. Terrific! Global Consciousness is on watch! Hahahahahahahahaha!

I just share with you Rich the classified materials of the CIA (Cheshireian Intelligence Agency.) wink.gif

Hope you shall like the joke. I shall include this joke into the new book named Enki & New World Order it will be a new edition of the old one published in Mesopotamia several thousand years ago named Enki & World Order. tongue.gif

Posted by: Enki Nov 01, 2008, 01:35 PM

Rick, have you read the sorry "The Lord of all the Keys (Me)"?

Booooooooo.

The Upper Super Beings Inc. (if you prefer the Providence) grant to American people us much freedom of Democratic free choice in their country as much choice they have granted to other small nations of the world who live under dictators well supported by US governments.

I think it is fair Rick, don't you think so?

Posted by: Enki Nov 01, 2008, 01:43 PM

To be or not to be! Who will be the next US president? This is the question!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhaahahahahh!

Well, today I am too artistic. Sorry.

Posted by: Phi Nov 02, 2008, 05:15 AM

QUOTE(Enki @ Oct 31, 2008, 03:53 AM) *

QUOTE(trojan_libido @ Oct 31, 2008, 12:25 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki)
From today Lindsay's aggressive comments in my fairy tale section I resumed that some people in Canada and England dislike me very much
This is not true Enki. I like you, I like your posts, I just find it difficult to comprehend your selection of words and the links between them. But I can also see that my beliefs are also unorthodox, and are actually intwined with the key idea behind what you're proposing. Language is interconnected like a web, and filled with emotion like our conciousness. However I don't feel I'll ever grasp the concept, it seems far too loose to define and too grand in scope. Your ideas obviously came to you and solidified in some kind of epiphany, and I only hope you don't get too frustrated when people don't understand what you're saying.


I really hope so. Those who want to understand they understand, those who do not want others to understand mark it as non-understandable.

The entire hypothesis springs from two extremely simple suppositions:

1. Some kind of information can percolate from one person to another wirelessly, how technically it percolates it is not an option in this model. Human brain may not be able to decode it, but something flows, even if by shorcuts, it flows. So we just suppose that some subconscious data exchange exists, even with 10% accuracy nonetheless something flows around.

2. The random or non-random flow of information from one person to another can pass when some Patterns in brain : Visual, Sound, Sensitive patterns, do match one with another. Let me call them Triggering Keys of Data Percolation. E.g. X looks at Mona Lisa in Brazil, Y looks at Mona Lisa in France and at the same time, at that very moment Y start to think about a bicycle, then an idea similar to the bicycle triggers X's brain, e.g. X start to think about roads. If data percolated, then a detailed analysis may show that X and Y both have the same name, or that X and Y both like the same number so the Circle/Ring is closed and X and Y have bi-directional percolation line. So if Y is a homosexual then X can start to love boys too as feelings may percolate as well (this is a feedback to your example with word Gays).

If the Key Pattern uniting X and Y is powerful enough (or a group of meditating bastards somewhere in Orient keeps singing the same mantra looking at Mona Lisa, thus keeping some lines active) then X and Y along with other people who periodically look at Mona Lisa start to evolve into a Cluster worshiping the same idol or idols. E.g. we all start to love Coca-cola or start to warship David Beckham with his T-shirt with number 23 on it (or Mikel Jordan), or even warship him (and e.g. people from Manchester Society of Magic start to suck our 'energy' [I am joking] for their magic). When the Cluster grows into a huge agglomeration we start to think in the same way and start to construct Babylon Tower.
Now in this model try to replace Mona Lisa with Swastika. You see...

Now, if we can show that there are some certain Dominating Triggering Keys of Data Percolation in Languages, World Events etc, then it will provide additional arguments pro that we have the information percolation phenomena.

And there is an opinion that in that cybernetic space some Upper Beings exist, e.g. Super DMT elves known from stories told by those who practice Magic Mushrooms consuming.

If to go further we can suppose that if things like that exist, then it becomes a political issue as well.

I think I am expressing some ideas in very simple way Trojan. A child can understand, is not it? And all ideas are based on two very simple suppositions.

Now about theological applications: what Sins in that context are?

Sin generally is a bad behavior and if being practiced much brings something negative to a person and society (and as Church says to the soul as well). Now, from point of view of the above mentioned percolations the Patterns of bad behavior may percolate from one person to another wirelessly, e.g. aggression, greed, enviousness etc. But if you teach a person to contain Sin it is the same thing as containing the percolation of the Patterns of bad behavior in the entire net. So from that point of view Church is a fundamental institution, though at the same time it can play extremely negative role of enslavement as well. So wise Rulers who draft Architecture carcasses of modern societies must take into consideration all the aspects and periodically consult with wise consultants who know the Ineffable truths, so to take into consideration as many options as is possible. Only such societies stand for centuries and only such Empires stand firm.


So outside fantasy, there are wizards who guide(via data percolation) our societies?

Posted by: Enki Nov 02, 2008, 10:48 AM

QUOTE(Phi @ Nov 02, 2008, 05:15 AM) *
So outside fantasy, there are wizards who guide(via data percolation) our societies?


I am sorry but I cannot answer to this question by few words. So I am sorry in advance.

It is very hard to make such a statement as in peer-review scientific journals the topic is not discussed. On the other hand, if to suppose that it is so, then that should explain why the topic is not discussed in the peer-review scientific journals (e.g. censorship of magicians). Paradox. So in any case the answer at that question backed by scientific argumentation supported by series of publications in peer-review scientific journals is not possible to provide. So we cannot with some certainty say weather it is so or not. Each person should orientate in accordance to his/her own judgment.

Though, scientific peer-review publications published during the middle ages are full with such statements (but the scholars were politically interrelated with the Holy Roman Inquisition), the contemporary science questions the credibility of those publications and the methodology of research. But, on the other hand, as the contemporary scientific world systems predominantly are funded via channels Groups of Interests and is controlled by governments being under control of those Groups of Interests and it is hard to say whether the statements of the contemporary science in that respect are independent or not.

At present we have some sort of Status Quo preserved. Only movies about Harry Potter question that tranquility. Please note that all the Wizards in Harry Potter fear to pronounce the NAME of you know whom, it looks like it is а direct hint at the traditional God (God of Law) and his NAME which is very dangerous to be pronounced (the same hint at the name of traditional God is made by introduction of character of Dr. Hamstervile in Liloo & Stitch Cartoon, where entire universe is apt to mispronounce the name of Dr. Hamstervile a villain genius looking like the white rabbit from the wonderland). In some Esoteric and Gnostic literature the traditional God is considered as negative spirit (in Harry Potter terminology a villain Wizard) claiming monopoly out of nothing over the world of the Magles and Wizards (e.g. Dumbledore’s name is Parsifal, you see...), in Star Wars the Emperor and Lord Vader are associated with the same personage (the image of Lord Vader is taken from one of Leonardos paintings [half mirror image]). So in some way it is global 'rebellion' against not only Judaism but Roman Catholic Church as well. And in my opinion that springs from wrong understanding of the nature of traditional God and God as a God. The Da Vinchi Code movie is a subliminal challenge over idea that Jesus is the son of traditional God as along with the Da Vinchi Code the Evangels of Judah suddenly emerged which is fully Gnostic in nature. So we observe fundamental changes in our Matrix.

If the answer to your question is positive, then we should accept that mankind is under Slavery of those Wizards. On the other had, the Wizards themselves can be slaves of more powerful beings. The idea of trapping one of those powerful beings is like trapping Ms. Calypso into human body conducted by the Free Pirates of the Caribbean. So there are many ideas, and as I see some very significantly progressed with the trapping technologies...

As a continuation of that idea we observe the most specific attempt to challenge Roman Catholic Church by introduction of idea of Magisterium in the Golden Compass, where it is claimed that the Old God is disappearing and that the world is ruled by Metatron an angel with robotic and totalitarian philosophy, who forces all to consider him as a God. A fundamental attempt to present the Metatron as villain totalitarian angel is made in the Transformers movie. Where the Angels are presented as Transformers- creatures from ether living among us. So some Groups of Interests in Hollywood persistently moves mankind to new religious vision. The Roman Catholic Church looks like fully neutralized and passive. In true the Roman Catholic Church converts into a tool, a platform on which the Pyramid shall grow. Eventually, if things develop in this way Islam and Buddhism shall merge with this platform too. I cannot say is this process is good or bad, I always for progress, but I think the key flavor of our world is in variety, not in uniformity.

But the most fundamental crisis we observe in Judaism. We see full collapse: they returned back and what? The story over? The Jewish spiritual life undergoes very dramatic changes ever know.

The most fundamental challenge is the Constantine movie where Archangel Gabriel is presented as crazy, feminist fundamentalist woman-like creature. Subsequently the actress playing the role of Gabriel in Constantine movie is playing the role of the White Witch (so direct association with the Pontific is made) to create very certain associations. In the cartoon the Walking Castle of Miadzaki the wizard Saliman is depicted Pontiff Like. So we see global process.

But the most horrific challenge is the first part of the Zeitgeist movie about the Gods, it directly and fundamentally hits Christianity and all religions. Is it good or bad I do not know.

Now by the projected Angels & Demons movie the Brotherhood tries fundamentally rearrange human understanding of the reality. The Catholic Church in its turn makes weak attempts to resist as it cannot invent stories and relies only on Bible. So the Roman Church is trapped into its own approach. It has only one story and cannot modify it as the Book – Bible was locked many centuries ago and they have nothing to offer. If they open the archives they had to accept something, accepting something they do not have authority to reject what is offered by the other side. Things turn very dramatic for the church. So never before the Christianity was so greatly challenged as it is today and it looks like if things go on this way emergence of new type of religion is inevitable. Or personal interference of the Upper Super Beings via some absolutely new ways of control shall emerge.

One can ask, how this all is possible? I think it is a great question.

In my opinion the best solution to this problem (if such one exists) is the Harmony. We have no other choice. If to suppose that the answer is positive, then we have an Army of children which loves Harry Potter and all want to become Wizards and eventually some will be initiated to. Such dramatic increase of the number of Wizards should bring new reality to our world and certainly that all will require new form of regulations: Ordering.

The Ordering shall require fundamental modification of understanding of the reality and reorganization of all public institutions for harmonious co-existence of Magls and Wizards and Upper Beings if such exist.

We shall see how things will develop. We shall see. There are too many players in this game if such game exists.

Posted by: Enki Nov 02, 2008, 11:19 AM

Summarizing I can say that there is no answer to your question.
Scientists shall never answer you Yes. This thing is obvious.

You know it is the same extraterrestrials topic: extraterrestrials, utlraterrestrials, celestials, wizards, elves, gnomes other respected creatures, DMT-elves, Upper Beings etc all officially and publicly are considered as non-existing options by world governments.

Hardly ever, any State along with its scientific institutions will openly accept that one of those options is optional.

That is why Harmony in everything is the best solution. I do not suggest the co-existence in a forest like eco-system. I am sure that wiser, better and realistic frame always exists, just all sides should show good will. A wise solution always exists. We just should develop schemes of searching those solutions. I am sure it is possible to arrange such a world order that all shall benefit from it.

Posted by: Enki Nov 02, 2008, 12:14 PM

And as I am getting very tired of this topic I decided to close it unilaterally.
I am sorry, the Curiosity Shop of Enki is closing.

Some gentlemen adapted enigmatic style of behavior like I do not exist here.

When the Canons of Enlil's Warships shall totally crush the vanity fair of pompous idiots in the West, then words of mine shall be remembered very frequently in many circles...

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